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a_esbech
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14. nov. 2012 17:14

Nogle tanker om the Dons

Da Milton Keynes Dons gik fra banen i går med en 6-1 sejr over Cambridge City blev det en realitet at de skal møde AFC Wimbledon i FA Cuppens 2. runde. Dette bliver et historisk opgør da MK Dons i 2004 startede deres fodbold tilværelse ved at resterne...

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A. Jensen
bruger
14. nov. 2012 17:48

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Fin blog - dejligt at drømme sig tilbage til de glade sportslørdage i 90´erne, hvor jeg fulgte Wimbledon i flere år, indtil det gik galt for ti år siden. AFC vil altid være den klub jeg betragter som det "gamle" Wimbledon-hold. Fans og lokalitet betyder mere end organisationen!

Herhjemme kender vi noget lignende - hér er det dog i forbindelse med fusioner. FCK "stjal" B1903´s placering efter sammenlægning med KB og rykkede til København, og FCM "stjal" Ikasts placering efter sammenlægning med Herning Fremad og rykkede fire år senere til Herning.

Ikke 100 km væk som i Wimbledons tilfælde, men mon ikke der alligevel sad nogle fans tilbage, og var vrede over at der ikke længere blev spillet topfodbold i Gentofte og Ikast...?
Acheron 3
bruger
14. nov. 2012 17:54

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En fin opsummering, og jeg er generelt enig i dine betragtninger. Personligt mener jeg heller ikke at MK Dons har nogen som helst eksistensberettigelse, og de er den eneste klub, som jeg håber på et tidspunkt må dreje nøglen om. De er en skændsel for engelsk klubfodbold, og heldigvis har The FA også for længst meldt ud, at de lavede en fejl dengang, og at noget lignende ikke kommer til at ske igen med deres accept.

Noget som jeg til gengæld synes at der sjældent er blevet kastet lys over, er hvorfor MK Dons supporterne har valgt at støtte klubben. Normalt betyder traditioner m.m. meget for den typiske engelske supporter, men folk i Milton Keynes er åbenbart gjort af et andet stof. Måske en det en slags amerikansk-inspireret nybygger-ånd? Området har jo ingen historie i sig selv. Men de har truffet et valg, som gør dem til fortjent skydeskive for andre fodboldtilhængeres hån m.m. De kan selvfølgelig forsvare det med, at de ikke har nogen andel i flytningen af Wimbledon FC, men de har trods alt valgt som de gør i stedet for at støtte den oprindelige lokale klub Milton Keynes City, eller de nærliggende Luton Town eller Northampton Town. Jeg kan slet ikke følge, hvordan de kan støtte bastarden MK Dons.
Onwards and upwards!



Dette indlæg er blevet rettet 14. nov. 2012 17:55 af Acheron 3
Cone
bruger
14. nov. 2012 22:31

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En okay blog, men der mangler meget om motivationen for flytningen. Det gamle Wimbledon spillede f.eks. sine kampe på Selhurst Park, der er hjemmebane for Crystal Palace, hvilket flyttede AC Wimbledon 10 km fra deres reelle rødder på Plough Lane. Du husker muligvis ikke så langt tilbage, men AC Wimbledon var faktisk en "eksil"-klub allerede inden den rykkede til Milton Keynes. At man som fodbold-romantiker godt kunne ønske, at nogen så havde smidt en allerhelvedes masse penge i Plough Lane og skaffede AC Wimbledon en bane, de kunne få tilladelse til at spille League-fodbold på, er så en anden sag.
Bunde
bruger
14. nov. 2012 22:56

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Var i foråret inde og se en kamp med dem.. For satan det var en oplevelse uden lige..!
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Acheron 3
bruger
14. nov. 2012 23:00

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Omkring motivationen for flytningen, denne opsummering siger alt:

In 1997, realising the Wimbledon fairytale was on the wane, then chairman Sam Hammam pulled off one of the greatest confidence tricks in the modern era by selling Wimbledon to a group of Norwegian businessmen for £22 million.

How did he manage to sell a club with no assets for £22 million? The promise of franchise football. The Norwegians didn’t buy Wimbledon FC, they bought a place in the Premiership. Hammam had put it into the minds of the Norwegians that the club would be able to move lock stock and barrel to Dublin in what would be a lucrative Premiership franchise. Other places bandied around as possible locations for the franchise include Basingstoke, Wigan and Cardiff. At the time of the sale, Wimbledon had been playing for a number of years at Selhurst Park, the home of Crystal Palace, after the introduction of the Taylor Report meant their home ground Plough Lane had become unsuitable for use. Hammam later pocketed £8 million pounds from the sale of Plough Lane to Safeways. A nice by-product of the Taylor Report for Hammam.

The rich Norwegians failed to invest enough in the team as they were distracted by the desperate realisation that moving the club to Dublin or anywhere else was not as simple as Hammam had explained, and relegation from the Premiership followed. Relegation heaped the financial pressure on the owners. Hammam was all talk and no trousers! This wasn’t how it was supposed to be! The investment wasn’t paying back, and there didn’t seem to he any hope of a return on their investment as it stood. Unless…

It was the financial state of the club that was used as the reason for relocating the club, yet with the money gained from transfer fees the club was actually making a profit towards the end. It is interesting to note that the 3-man FA committee that decided the fate of Wimbledon in 2002 were given accounts that did not include this £22 million transfer income, and their decision to give the go-ahead for the move to MK was largely based on the financial plight of the club.

Anyone who observes the events of the past 8 years will be in no doubt that the express intentions of the new owners from day one was to move the club elsewhere, any claims of necessity around relocation are superficial and contrived. If anything, the owners themselves helped create the feeling of necessity by failing to invest in the club. £22 million was generated by transfer sales in just a couple of years, yet little was invested in the team or the cause of relocating to their home in Merton. Significant sums of money were however spent on researching the move to Milton Keynes.

Anyway, to cut a long story a bit shorter, the FA gave the club permission to move to Milton Keynes in 2002, although it took another 2 years until the club got the go-ahead to use the name MK Dons and to change the club badge and kit, effectively creating a whole new football club. The move to MK was the brainchild of pop producer Pete Winkleman, who is now the current chairman. Winkleman, or ‘crazily-coiffeured club-killing tosser’ as he is known in the Dons community, acquired the club as part of the consortium InterMK that helped bring the club out of administration. Winkleman has a history of looking to bring a ready-made football league club to Milton Keynes (Luton, Watford, QPR) instead of taking the traditional route of helping a local club up through the divisions. The problems at Wimbledon and the intervention of superstore giant ASDA meant Winkey’s dream could become reality.

ASDA wanted to build a store in Milton Keynes. Due to planning regulations for the area in question, they could not build one without building a sports stadium for the community as part of the deal. They needed a sports team on board in order to get around the planning regulations. In stepped Winkleman with a proposal for a land deal. Whereby ASDA got their store, Winkleman got his stadium and Milton Keynes got a professional football club and a place in the Football League.


Hvad angår AFC så er de stadig en klub i "eksil". De spiller deres kampe i Kingston-on-Thames.




Onwards and upwards!


Acheron 3
bruger
14. nov. 2012 23:08

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Disse kommentarer i The Guardian siger også alt, hvad det skal siges om den sag:

http://www.guardian.co.u…of-comments
Onwards and upwards!


Eddienator
bruger
15. nov. 2012 01:19

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At AFC Wimbledons fans vil boykotte kampen er nok det værste statement fra fans, jeg har hørt om. De skal da møde op og støtte deres hold med den klub, som de anser for at være det værste.



teleduffe
bruger
15. nov. 2012 01:22

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At AFC Wimbledons fans vil boykotte kampen er nok det værste statement fra fans, jeg har hørt om. De skal da møde op og støtte deres hold med den klub, som de anser for at være det værste.


Hele problemet er vel, at Wimbledon lige præcis ikke ønsker at anerkende MK Dons som "en klub".
Derfor vil Wimbledons fans hellere tie kampen ihjel, og det kan jeg bedre og bedre forstå, som jeg læser rundt.
Det er iøvrigt et klassisk politisk kneb, som Wimbledons fans her bruger.
Acheron 3
bruger
15. nov. 2012 07:45

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Jeg kan også fuldt ud følge AFC-supporternes idé med at boycotte kampen fuldstændig. Dermed undgår de også at smide penge efter Franchise-klubben.
Onwards and upwards!


Mr. Head coach
bruger
15. nov. 2012 08:28

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Spændende. Jeg forstår dog ikke helt. I Football manager kan man spille med AFC Wimbledon, hvor der står at de startede i år 2007 og oven i købet er sponsoreret af "Football manager". Er det bare noget de har lavet i spillet fordi de måske har været fans og har nægtet at pille dem ud af spillet eller eksistere de stadig?

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