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Deportivo FAS
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NPATO

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The good old times. Jeg vil gerne ha set, hvordan fodbolden har udviklet, når man sammenligner de forskellige stile og om nogle klubber stadig har holdt deres røde tråd? =)

Grêmio x Ponte Preta 0-0 HT


tillykke med de tre point, det begynder at se godt ud for alvor.

Tja den røde tråd, er vel at Brasilien fortsat domineres af de klubber som kickstartede det hele tilbage i det tidlige 19 århundrede , Fluminense, Flamengo, Vasco, Botafogo, Sao Paulo, Corinthians, Palmeiras/Palestra Italia, Santos, Gremio, Internacional, Cruzeiro, Atletico Mineiro, Vitoria, Bahia, (Det er vist kun Guarani, Sport fra Recife, Coritiba og Atletico Paranaense som også har vundet det nationale mesterskab (og de er heller ikke små klubber)) - så på den måde har statsmesterskaberne trods alt etableret det her hierarki, som hersker i Brasiliansk fodbold, så et eller andet godt er der kommet ud af statsmesterskaberne...


Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
Deportivo FAS
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1. sep. 2013 10:42
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All change in Avellaneda

It´s been an unpredictable start to the Argentine season, and nowhere more so than in the Greater Buenos Aires suburb of Avellaneda, where two giants of the local game are undergoing major changes. Both Independiente and Racing have been Copa Libertadores and Intercontinental Cup champions, and with stadia just a couple of hundred metres apart, the derby between the two is often considered Argentina´s second-biggest after River Plate v Boca Juniors.

Right now, though, it´s a rivalry without focus, and not only because Independiente´s first ever relegation means there won´t be a derby for the first time in years this season. They´re now in different divisions, but both clubs have started the season dreadfully, and last weekend proved the straw that broke the camel´s back for both the red (Independiente) and blue-and-white (Racing) halves of town; both clubs sacked their managers.

Those managers are at different stages of their careers. For Independiente, Miguel Angel Brindisi came in late last season with the aim of keeping them in the Primera -– which looked impossible then, and proved to be so a couple of months later. Brindisi played for Argentina in the 1974 World Cup, and took up management after retiring from playing in 1983. Racing, meanwhile, have just fired Luis Zubeldia, who´s just 32 years old.

Zubeldia might be young, but he´s already managed three top-flight clubs. After an injury-enforced retirement as a player, he took charge of Lanus at just 27, before moving on to Barcelona of Ecuador and then Racing.

Whilst one is an old hand and the other has plenty to learn, both have overseen woeful starts to the current season. Last year Zubeldia´s Racing managed the club´s best points tally in a short (19-game) championship since the championship-winning side of 11 years previous, but since then he´s struggled to adapt his tactics to opponents seeking to prevent the side´s talented forwards from making a breakthrough.

Brindisi´s Independiente, meanwhile, have lurched from crisis to crisis. Relegation at the end of last season marked the end of an uninterrupted century in the top flight, and had seemed a foregone conclusion for months beforehand. In terms of results only, Independiente have been better than Racing; they´ve managed two draws and two defeats, against one draw and three defeats for Racing.

Context, however, is everything. And the context of Independiente´s results is the second tier. When they lost 2-1 at home to Brown de Adrogue on the opening weekend of the Nacional B (second division) season, in their opponents´ first ever second-tier match, Independiente became the first member of Argentina´s "Big Five" (River, Boca, Racing and San Lorenzo complete that group) to fail to win their opening match of the season in the second division.

They´ve not improved. As if to prove that it´s not only about the awful form of these two clubs, there was another piece of history last weekend; it was the first time ever that all of the "Big Five" lost in the same round of matches. Only for these two, however, has the situation got so bad that a change of manager was deemed necessary.

In truth, both River and Boca have managers whose past glories are arguably keeping them from coming under more pressure (both Ramon Diaz at River and Carlos Bianchi at Boca are their club´s most successful ever managers, in previous spells), whilst Zubeldia of course had no such pedigree at Racing, and Independiente´s desperate situation meant that Brindisi, for all his cult status (he won the league and the 1994 Copa Sudamericana during a previous period at the club), couldn´t be the beneficiary of sentiment for too long.

Independiente moved swiftly and named Omar De Felippe as manager. To me that looks an excellent appointment. De Felippe -- a veteran of the Falklands conflict whose breakthrough as a player for Huracan was delayed by his call-up to fight in the war -- has managed two clubs previously, and took both Quilmes and Olimpo de Bahia Blanca up, subsequently keeping both in the top flight. He knows his way around a competitive second tier, and his appointment makes clear that if an attitude of being "too big for the division" did exist at Independiente, it´s been cast out.

All the same, De Felippe will be under huge pressure, because a club the size of Independiente -- the most successful club in the history of the Copa Libertadores, with seven wins, and one of the world´s most successful sides in terms of international trophies -- simply can´t be allowed to play in "the B," at least in the eyes of Argentines.

The new Racing manager will have more time. Carlos Ischia turned down the Independiente job when Brindisi was first sacked, loudly proclaiming: "I don´t manage in the lower divisions." Racing were initially ambitious enough to phone up Marcelo Bielsa, who reportedly asked, "How can you claim to support a project when you sack your manager four games into the season?" before slamming the phone down. After they failed to reach an agreement with former Boca Juniors and Chile boss Claudio Borghi, Ischia was approached on Friday, and signed.

Ischia was enormously successful as Carlos Bianchi´s assistant at Boca, and has a couple of league titles of his own as a manager (one at Boca and one at Deportivo Quito of Ecuador). He ought to be more pragmatic than Zubeldia was, and have a clearer plan, which is what a side full of talent but lacking a sense of order need.

On Wednesday, under reserve boss Fabio Radaelli, Racing lost 2-0 away to Lanus for a 4-1 aggregate defeat in the Copa Sudamericana. Their conquerors were an historically smaller club managed by Guillermo Barros Schelotto, a man just starting out on his own managerial career (American readers will remember him from his playing days at Columbus Crew).

Barros Schelotto is the kind of manager Racing thought they were getting with Zubeldia, and the sort of name Independiente aim to one day be able to attract again. Both Avellaneda clubs, though, need to concentrate on improving their current standings before they can hope to get back to something like the position they once held in the game. This week´s managerial changes, both will hope, are just the first step on that path.
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
NPato7
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1. sep. 2013 12:45
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Flamengo strike Olympic deal with Team USA

The United States Olympic Committee (USOC) has signed a $1 million deal with Flamengo to help American athletes prepare for the Rio 2016 Games.

The USOC have agreed to pay for improvements to Flamengo´s current training facilities in the Rio de Janeiro neighborhood of Gavea.

And in turn the USA team will use the base during the Olympic and Paralympic Games, with proposals including a new aquatic park, rowing centre, martial arts gym, tennis courts and refurbished dressing rooms.

Flamengo’s Olympic sports director Alexandre Povoa said: "This is a historic occasion and is line with our efforts to restructure Flamengo."

The financial agreement between the two parties could rise to as much as $4 million if all projects are approved.

"We are looking forward to investing in the long-term success of Flamengo and are confident that our athletes will have everything they need to do well at the Rio 2016 Olympics," USOC´s performance chief Alan Ashley said on Thursday.
BRASSER PODCASTEN: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/brasserbold/id1084900607?mt=2

-A Seleção Brasileira og Brasiliansk fodbold! (Garrincha > Pelé)

Grêmio fan, KUN GRÊMIO:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NwzoNF7bujA/maxresdefault.jpg
NPato7
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1. sep. 2013 12:46
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Liverpool interested in Vasco´s Danilo - report

Liverpool are in negotiations to sign Vasco da Gama´s 17-year-old midfielder Danilo according to reports in Brazil.

Globoesporte claims that Vasco are in talks with the Reds over a €4 million deal to take the youngster to Merseyside once he reaches 18.

Vasco´s general director Cristiano Koehler has denied that a deal is close however, and insists Danilo will be staying for now.

"We have received a few enquiries, but it is not finalised. There is information that has been exchanged with a club. But at the moment it is stagnant, because he cannot quit now due to the transfer window," Koehler told reporters.

One of Danilo´s former stakeholders, Stephane Krause, has warned that Danilo is the subject of intense interest.

"There are many people and many clubs that follow his career and other boys who emerge very early.

"There are plenty of calls, but he cannot leave Vasco now, not until he is 18 years old, and Vasco still have the right to renew his contract."
BRASSER PODCASTEN: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/brasserbold/id1084900607?mt=2

-A Seleção Brasileira og Brasiliansk fodbold! (Garrincha > Pelé)

Grêmio fan, KUN GRÊMIO:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NwzoNF7bujA/maxresdefault.jpg
Deportivo FAS
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1. sep. 2013 19:49
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Kaka to Galaxy, via Milan - reports

Real Madrid midfielder Kaka could be about to make a short return to former club AC Milan before joining LA Galaxy in March.

AC Milan chief Adriano Galliani is flying out to Madrid today to attempt to complete negotiations, which will see Kaka return to the San Siro, reports Football Espana.

The move could happen after the Brazilian declared his intention to leave Madrid with manager Carlo Ancelotti confirming he is free to go.

Despite reported interest from Manchester United and Arsenal, the 31-year-old seems set on a return to Milan, the club he left for a then-world record fee in 2009.

The move is still in some doubt after Galliani told journalists at Linate airport: “The return of Kaka remains very, very, very difficult.”

However, Tuttosport are reporting that the move to Milan will only be a short-term agreement with the player then moving on to LA Galaxy when the MLS season begins in March.
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
KayOkay
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1. sep. 2013 21:23
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argh, mit stream hakker hver gang Rosario Central får en chance.
KayOkay
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1. sep. 2013 21:28
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nej, nej og nej.. selvfølgelig hakkede Colons mål ikke.
Deportivo FAS
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1. sep. 2013 21:30
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mjaeh kunne nu godt have undværet at se Pato scorer for Corinthians, Boca er kommet foran efter 1-0 spil ved Rodriguez - gago med assisten...

hvilken stream -kanal kører du ?
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
Deportivo FAS
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1. sep. 2013 21:33
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og velez har netop udlignet...
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
KayOkay
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1. sep. 2013 21:34
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Ser den på første række i noget der ligner lommeregner-opløsning.

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