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Cabeza Mágica – The King of Ecuador

When one talks about the rich history of Latin American football, it can quite safely be assumed than one is normally speaking of the disproportionate amount of influence a country as small as Uruguay has had, the speed with which the beautiful game took off in the early part of the 20th century in Argentina or of course the way Brazilian football has mesmerised us in the later part. In the northern part of the continent, particularly in Venezuela and Ecuador, the game has never really taken off to the same extent.

Indeed as Ecuador’s debut World Cup appearance came as recently as the first competition of the 21st century in Japan and South Korea, and their record at the Copa America is largely dismal, one could be forgiven for taking 2002 as a kind of year X for the quintessential banana republic.

It also follows logically to assume that Ecuador’s finest footballer would be a product of the country’s footballing emergence, most likely Antonio Valencia, whose meteoric rise from playing barefoot in the humble surroundings of his dusty hometown Nueva Loja on the border with Colombia to the glitz of gracing a Champions League final against Barcelona in a Manchester United shirt has captured the imagination of his countrymen. Valencia seemingly personifies the rapid rise of Ecuadorian Football, with his tough no-nonsense style, his indefatigable work-rate and his pinpoint crosses.

Ecuadorian Football as a serious entity is indeed largely a recent phenomenon and alongside Venezuela their evolution from perennial minnows to realistic World Cup contenders in a short space of time is as admirable as it is difficult to account for.

Amazingly though, a hugely influential Ecuadorian player, not only in his own country, but throughout Latin America, began his rise to fame some half a century ago. The curious hybrid name inscribed on the Municipal Guayaquil stadium on Avenida de las Américas leaves a lasting reminder of a phenomenal athlete: Alberto Spencer.

Spencer’s mother was Ecuadorian, but his father was a Jamaican of British origin who worked in Ecuador on behalf of the Anglo-Ecuadorian Oil Company, a subsidiary of what is now known as BP, a company whose presence in the region continues to cause consternation, particularly among environmentalists to this day.

The fact that many fans in the English speaking world have never heard of Spencer can be explained by a couple of important factors. Firstly, unlike Pelé, Spencer never graced a World Cup, which of course is the greatest stage for any footballer to be seen. Secondly, like many of the great South American players of his day, he never made the trip across the Atlantic Ocean to play for Europe’s top sides. Players like Di Stefano, who starred for Real Madrid, were the exception and not the rule.

The production line of South American players has always been prolific, the fundamental difference in Spencer’s era was that holding onto the players was possible, thus creating something akin to a level playing field between the two continents. Indeed, in the 60s, the South American teams could quite easily go toe-to-toe with their European counterparts and on many occasions came out on top in the annual Intercontinental Cup games.

Spencer was born in Ancón on the Santa Elena peninsula. He began playing football as a small kid with his older brother Marcos, who years later would bring him along to Guayaquil club Everest. Everest saw Spencer’s potential and immediately gave him his debut. Spencer quickly racked up a century of goals for Everest, and was spotted by Peñarol staff while the Uruguayan club were playing on tour in Ecuador. They immediately signed him, and he became a hugely important player in Peñarol’s all-conquering sides of the 60s.

He won an amazing seven league titles with Los Carboneros (the coalmen), along with three Copa Libertadores and two memorable Intercontinental Cup victories.

He scored both at home and away as the Uruguayans dismantled Real Madrid in the Intercontinental Cup final of 1966. This feat didn’t go unnoticed with Europe’s top clubs, and Peñarol soon found themselves resisting the entreaties of Inter Milan. Whilst playing for Los Carboneros, Spencer went on to score an amazing 326 goals, justifying Peñarol’s stubborn refusal to sell him. Spencer holds the incredible record of being the all-time leading goalscorer in the Copa Libertadores. Spencer’s haul of 54 goals is not insurmountable, but surely to be beaten it would require an outstanding South American player to ignore the lure of Europe, with all it entails financially and in terms of prestige, to concentrate on achieving in his own continent. At this juncture that seems unlikely, though maybe in the future this may change, particularly with the emerging Brazilian economy.

A great number of fellow professionals from his era regarded him highly, with Pelé in particular alluding Spencer’s heading ability being the finest that he had ever seen. Curious then, that in the latter days of Spencer’s life (in 2004), when Pelé came to draw up (or put his name to) a list of the greatest living 100 players, Spencer was shunned in favour of a bizarre mishmash of manifestly PC selections aimed at including each of the World’s continents like El Hadji Diouf of Senegal, Hidetoshi Nakata of Japan, Hong Myong Bo of South Korea and Mia Hamm of the United States ladies team.

In time honoured gentlemanly Spencer style, when questioned about the matter, he declined to criticise the selections. This dignified response lies in stark contrast to Brazilian Gerson, who ripped up the list on Brazilian television and launched into an extraordinary rant about his exclusion.

Spencer was the first Ecuadorian player to score against England at Wembley in 1964. No mean feat considering that Ecuador’s national side have never played at Wembley. He scored the goal whilst representing Uruguay as a guest, something he did on a number of occasions in friendlies, whilst stating clearly that he would never abandon the country of his birth. He made 11 appearances for his homeland Ecuador, and continues to be revered there.

Indeed as a labour of love to his homeland, Spencer returned in 1970 to finish his career at Ecuador’s most emblematic club Barcelona of Guayaquil, where he added an Ecuadorian title to his illustrious list of honours before finally hanging up his boots. Such was the esteem in which he was held back in Montevideo, he was sent by the Ecuadorian government to remain there as honorary vice-consul at the embassy. He brought up his children in the Uruguayan capital and held the place in great affection.

A pervasive Eurocentric view (of the football world at least) is ever more difficult to resist as the economic gulf between the clubs of the two dominant football continents is more apparent than ever. Despite Neymar’s recent commitment to remain at Santos until the Brazil World Cup, realistically it is more a case of ‘when’ than ‘if’ he will one day play in Europe.

Equally it is sad in many ways that a player like Messi, who so clearly continues a distinguished tradition of Latin American No.10s, was uprooted and taken away from his own continent at such a young age, never representing his hometown club at senior level.

Spencer too, of course, was uprooted from his beloved homeland the moment his talent was discovered by the giants of Peñarol, but Spencer belongs in an era of more idealistic era of Latin American Football, when (Southern Cone) clubs aspired to keep their best players in order to prove their supremacy against their ex-colonial masters, rather than aspiring to supply Europe with players to ensure their own survival.

Peñarol indeed twice proved their supremacy against Real Madrid and Benfica in the 1960s, with Spencer’s goals playing a pivotal role. Little wonder then, that some four decades on, supporters of Las Manyas still hold banners and chant the name of Alberto Spencer, beyond any reasonable doubt Ecuador’s greatest ever player.

Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
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28. juli 2012 00:01
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Nåh det virker til jeg var lidt for hurtigt med hensyn til Guillermo Burdisso og River - eftersom Bocas træner Falcionimener at han er tæt på at skrive kontrakt med Guille.

Mer BOca - det virker til at Cristian chávez regner med han er den umiddelbare erstatning for Riquelme, hvilket forklare hvorfor han har afslÃ¥et Colo Colo´s kontraktudspil...


Vedrørende River så lader det til at manager matias Almeyda satser på de unge i den kommende sæson.


Los pibes también tendrán protagonismo en Primera

Por Gustavo Yarroch

En la consideración del entrenador, los Funes Mori, Cirigliano y Ocampos hoy son titulares. Una apuesta fuerte.

River pasó de esperar refuerzos “de jerarquía, que lleguen y se pongan la camiseta”, al “no van a venir jugadores de renombre” que pronunció Matías Almeyda hace dos semanas después del complicado panorama que le plantearon los dirigentes. Y mientras hay tres incorporaciones confirmadas (Marcelo Barovero, Gabriel Mercado y Jonathan Bottinelli) y otras dos al caer (Ariel Rojas y Marcelo Estigarribia), los juveniles que tuvieron bastante protagonismo en la campaña que desembocó en el regreso a Primera División seguirán acumulando muchos minutos en cancha en la A . En la consideración de Matías Almeyda, Ramiro Funes Mori, Ezequiel Cirigliano, Lucas Ocampos y Rogelio Funes Mori hoy son titulares. Y Leandro González Pires, Manuel Lanzini y Daniel Villalva los imagina como tres de las principales piezas de recambio. De hecho, González Pires será el reemplazante de Ramiro Funes Mori, quien debe una fecha de suspensión, el domingo 5 de agosto, ante Belgrano, en el debut en el Torneo Inicial.

Que los juveniles conformen buena parte de la base del equipo titular representa tanto una buena señal porque siempre es positivo apostar por los pibes, como una apuesta arriesgada. Si bien Almeyda y David Trezeguet, los líderes afuera y adentro de la cancha, afirman que River tiene que “pelear arriba”, no es menos cierto que necesitará sumar 50 puntos en la temporada para no volver a sufrir con el promedio, ese fantasma.

En la defensa, la llegada de Bottinelli le pondrá cierta presión a Ramiro Funes Mori. El gemelo de Rogelio tendrá prioridad a partir de la segunda fecha, pero ahora sabrá que Bottinelli estará al acecho a la espera de tener una chance. Germán Pezzella, otro pibe de la cantera, seguirá siendo una de las principales variantes en caso de lesiones o suspensiones en la zaga.

A no ser que Almeyda decida modificar a último momento el plan que tiene pensado hoy, el mediocampo frente a Belgrano estará conformado por tres juveniles (Ocampos, Cirigliano y Lanzini) y Leonardo Ponzio, ahora subcapitán detrás de Trezeguet. Ocampos ya consensuó con Almeyda que seguirá jugando en el mediocampo, a contrapelo de la idea que tuvo el técnico durante el receso de volver a utilizarlo como delantero, su posición natural. Y el juvenil que llegó desde Quilmes será el titular indiscutido por la derecha hasta que Carlos Sánchez se recupere por completo de su fractura de clavícula derecha.

Cirigliano volverá a conformar con Ponzio ese doble pivot capaz de combatir y de jugar en dosis semejantes. Aunque su caso es igual al de Ocampos y -en menor medida- al de Rogelio Funes Mori: si antes del 31 de agosto llega una oferta irresistible desde Europa, se irá del club. Llegado el caso, uno solo de ellos será vendido. Y para el técnico hoy Rogelio se volvió un jugador clave: quiere que sea el socio de Trezeguet en la delantera.

Por la izquierda, Almeyda tiene pensado improvisar como carrilero a Lanzini, quien es enganche pero en los amistosos ante Lanús y San Telmo le demostró que se puede adaptar a esa posición. Si se suma Estigarribia, será titular más temprano que tarde.

Luego de las traumáticas idas de Fernando Cavenaghi y Alejandro Cavenaghi, Rogelio Funes Mori quedó posicionado como una fija entre los once. El técnico espera que la química que demostró tener con Trezeguet en las últimas fechas de la B Nacional se prolongue en la A. Y, mientras espera que le contraten otro delantero de recambio, piensa en el Keko Villalva y Luis Vila, otros dos pibes fatto in casa , como alternativas.

Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
andib
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28. juli 2012 00:02
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Jeg går ud fra jeg kan må proklamere herinde, når Latinamerika får medaljer ved OL.

Jeg kommer til at se en helvedes masse derfra.
Kenny Dalglish had scouted the young star at Bordeaux, and requested the chairman Jack Walker to begin discussions with the player’s club. He refused, and famously said, “Why do you want to sign Zinedine Zidane when we have Tim Sherwood?”
Deportivo FAS
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28. juli 2012 00:04
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Sv: Sydamerikansk fodbold i Danmark - hvad mener I?

helt klart....tænker primært holdsport, fodbold, Volleyball, basketball er vel der hvor der er størst chance - muligvis en argentiner i tennis ?

og naturlig Jamaica + caribien i atletik ;-)
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ

Dette indlæg er blevet rettet 28. juli 2012 00:09 af Deportivo FAS
KayOkay
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28. juli 2012 00:26
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Sv: Sydamerikansk fodbold i Danmark - hvad mener I?

Der har været et par Larissaer!
KayOkay
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28. juli 2012 00:31
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Spydkaster fra Paraguay

http://img002.lazygirls.…6.sized.jpg
andib
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28. juli 2012 00:36
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Jeg har forsøgt at lægge mærke til det KayOkay, men du er dæleme skarp til at spotte dem.
Kenny Dalglish had scouted the young star at Bordeaux, and requested the chairman Jack Walker to begin discussions with the player’s club. He refused, and famously said, “Why do you want to sign Zinedine Zidane when we have Tim Sherwood?”
andib
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28. juli 2012 00:37
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@Deportivo

Ja, jeg tænker også at det er de discipliner, hvor de gør sig bedst.

Jeg glæder mig vildt til dette OL.
Kenny Dalglish had scouted the young star at Bordeaux, and requested the chairman Jack Walker to begin discussions with the player’s club. He refused, and famously said, “Why do you want to sign Zinedine Zidane when we have Tim Sherwood?”
andib
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28. juli 2012 00:41
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Der må sgu også være et par venezuelanske skønheder.
Kenny Dalglish had scouted the young star at Bordeaux, and requested the chairman Jack Walker to begin discussions with the player’s club. He refused, and famously said, “Why do you want to sign Zinedine Zidane when we have Tim Sherwood?”
KayOkay
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28. juli 2012 00:43
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Jeg har forsøgt at lægge mærke til det KayOkay, men du er dæleme skarp til at spotte dem.


Man må jo bidrage med hvad man kan i den her tråd :) Jeg ville ønske at jeg vidste lige så meget om mellemamerikansk fodbold som dig og FAS.

Nå, sengetid for mig - skal være forlover til bryllup i morgen.

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