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SOMBREROS, MASKS AND YELLOWHEADS: REMEMBERING TOROS NEZA

Nezahualcóyotl was the monarch of Tetzcuco before the Spanish conquest in 1492. Poet, architect, warrior and philosopher, he is one of the most notable rulers of Mexican history. His face can even be found on 100 pesos bills, alongside one of his poems.

The municipality of Neza, or City of Neza, as its name states, was born in the 1960’s as part of the independence of some of the districts around the Lake of Texcoco. It took years of discussions and compromises, but as of 1963, the City of Nezahualcóyotl got its recognition and started to grow. Hospitals, parks, schools, and houses were built and the population increased.

Being such a new and young municipality, a football team and stadium would probably lift their sense of identity. Furthermore, Coyotes de Neza were in need of a stadium. As a result, the Estadio Neza 86 was built with the name “Estadio José López Portillo”. It was one of the venues of the World Cup of 1986, in which Sir Alex Ferguson coached two of his three Scotland matches, and also where Michel Laudrup and Enzo Francesoli scored a goal each in Denmark’s 6-1 trashing of Uruguay.

But it was the second city’s team that really left a mark in the 90’s in Mexican football. Not as a dominant force, not as the base for the national team, perhaps only in part for the generation of players and now managers that played in that famous team of 97, but mostly because they were unorthodox, non-traditional. They were rebels, they were charismatic, talented, somewhat overbold, mostly irreverent, and they had a big bull in the front of their shirt.

Toros Neza was founded in 1991 and started from the bottom in the Second (which is actually the third) Division. They got promoted in 1993, despite having to play the home leg of the final at Cruz Azul’s stadium, because somehow the Mexican FA questioned the Estadio Neza 86’s suitability... even though it had hosted a World Cup 7 years before. And so, as soon as 1994, Los Toros were already making their debut in the First Division.

And their very first game would be against America, Mexico’s wealthiest, most powerful and popular team, away at the Azteca. Within 15 minutes they were 1-0 down. José Luis Malibrán got the equalizer for Neza, but America took the lead again right before the break. Only five minutes into the second half, though, America got a penalty. Would 3-1 be game, set and match for America at the Azteca? Up Germán Martelotto, with the number 10 on his back, stepped, but the Swiss keeper Toros Neza had signed, Jörg Stiel, saved the kick and it was game on. Still, 2-1 down and with less than 20 minutes left, not many thought Toros could get a point back, and nobody would actually blame them. But in the 75th minute, Manuel Negrete (mostly remembered for his bicycle-kick goal in the World Cup of 1986) got another equalizer for Neza. Could they pull it off? They could probably sit back and go back home with a point from the Azteca. No, it wouldn’t be enough. It wouldn’t be sassy. In the 89th minute, José Luis Malibrán scored the winner for the visitors. 2-3 Neza. Welcome to the league.

It was all uphill from there, and they made sure they were noticed.

Toros Neza were the new kids on the block. They had a project, they were recruiting talent and they got their very own Eric Cantona in the figure of the eccentric Antonio Mohamed. The Argentine made a name for himself from the very first moment he stepped on the pitch. He was as talented and creative with the ball as much as he was spontaneous outside the pitch.

He made his debut in Argentina with Huracán, and after a great couple of years he was part of Fiorentina’s triple signing of Batistuta, Diego Latorre and himself. He was, however, loaned back to Argentina with Boca Juniors, where after a disappointing year he was sent to Independiente and then snatched by Toros Neza. And boy did he make an impression!

“El Turco” Mohamed was a key part of the dressing room. He inspired confidence on the pitch and kept the spirits high off it. “Juan Antonio Hernández gave him a camera as a present... quite a mistake!” recalls Chávez Carretero, Enrique Meza’s assistant at the time, about Mohamed. “Everything was a joke to him. Don Juan gave him some centenarios (commemorative coins) one time, so he could give them away to the rest of the team, but he came into our office and offered us to keep them without telling the team... we refused, but the catch was that he was actually filming us with his camera! After the games, we used to watch his pranks”.

96 was a great year for Toros Neza. After 2 years of settling, they went all they way to the final of the League Cup, which they ultimately lost to Víctor Manuel Vucetich’s Cruz Azul. But that was just an omen. The following season they would kick it off, and with the new system of competition implemented (two short seasons in a footballing year) Toros Neza got themselves all the way into the semifinals of the tournament.

They had assembled a team around their white-shoed star Mohamed, managed by the now renowned figure of Enrique Meza. Pablo Larios, Rodrigo “Pony” Ruiz, Germán Arangio, Guillermo Vázquez, Javier Saavedra, Federico Lussenhoff and the current Mexican national team manager Miguel Herrera were all part of that team. They had to go through a play-off in order to get to the play-offs (don’t you just love Mexican system?) and successfully beat León 4-2 on aggregate. They would go on and face the leaders Atlante in the quarterfinals, and they would absolutely batter them, 9-2 on aggregate. However, they couldn’t hold off Santos and lost 5-2 in the semis.

And yet, Toros Neza got the attention of the country not only because they were good, but also because of their ingenious eccentricities. One day they all showed up to a game in dyed, yellow hair. Mohamed already used an uncommon look, with only the upper part of his head in yellow and the sides all black. He then decided that all of his teammates ought to dye their hair as well, so he drove a stylist to the ground and chose a color for most of them (he even unsuccessfully tried to persuade Enrique Meza into it). Almost every playing member of the team bar Miguel Herrera (who happens to be blonde) showed up with a yellow (or red, some black) head for the following game, and the pre-match photograph appeared in every newspaper, magazine and TV of the time.

But it didn’t stop there. Such had been the hype around the first picture (and watching them playing with their heads in yellow) that for another game they all showed up wearing sombreros. Mohamed had run into a sombreros seller, liked them and bought them all. He thought it would be funny to appear in the pre-match photograph with the whole team wearing sombreros. But could he step it up a notch? At another game the team showed up wearing masks. Some of them were of known political figures such as the former president Carlos Salinas de Gortari, another one was Bart Simpson, someone else wore Gene Simons’ Demon Kiss mask, and some of them were just average Halloween ones.

This team had put Ciudad Neza in the map. Their fans were passionate about the local club, which not many years before didn’t even exist. The identity of the relatively new municipality lied in every step this team took inside the pitch, in every picture circulating in the papers, talked about on TV, radio stations, on the streets.

Toros Neza were hitting it off on and off the pitch. They went all the way to the final of 1997, beating Pumas and Necaxa in the quarterfinals and semis respectively. They had the full support of the neutrals. There they were, a team that showed no fear, no respect for the big boys, who dared to visit legendary Mexican grounds and pass around the ball, give it to Mohamed who’d, even sometimes overweight, pull a magical, off-the-hat pass. Within 3 years of top-flight football they had a real chance of winning the league. Chivas, the other most popular team of the country, separated them from putting their hands on the trophy.

The first leg was played at the Neza 86, and the visitors would take the lead in the 26th minute until Carlos Briseño equalized from a Mohamed assist in the 79th minute. The final would be decided at the Estadio Jalisco.

After 45 hectic minutes of the second leg, Toros Neza crumbled. Chivas scored in the ‘50, ‘51 and ‘55 minutes, and then added another one in the 62nd and yet another in the 74th. By the time Arangio got one back, they were already 5-0 down, and Chivas even scored again to add to the final 7-2 aggregate score. They fell so hard it was almost foreshadowing of what would happen to the club a couple of years later. It was all downhill from there.

After 2 seasons in the middle of the table (barely reaching the play-offs’ play-off), they spent 5 seasons in the lower part of it. Mohamed left for America in 1998, and although in 1999 they signed Brazil international Bebeto, with the hype built around a World Cup winner coming to play to Mexico, he only managed 8 appearances and 2 goals before allegedly going back to Brazil because, as he would later reveal, the then president-owner of the team, Juan Antonio Hernández, “had been threatening” him (he was the only player being paid, and story goes his teammates asked him to interfere for them, which infuriated Hernández).

The players left. “Pony” Ruíz, Miguel Herrera, Mohamed, Lussenhoff, and manager Enrique Meza were all gone by 2000, when Toros Neza got relegated. They played a couple of seasons in the second division, even managing to get to a final (winning meant they had to play another final for the chance to get promoted), but they lost 5-3 on aggregate against La Piedad, who would ultimately play in the first division the following season.

In 2002 Juan Antonio Hernández sold the club (something amazingly common in Mexico, as teams change name, location, badge, and move all of their players along – they can even avoid relegation by doing so) and Toros Neza became Gavilanes de Nuevo Laredo. Gavilanes played one season and got relegated, then played a second one in the second division and disappeared after, and with them, what used to be Toros Neza. The city of Neza had climbed high, but as if the fall hadn’t been hard enough when they got relegated, they watched their team sold and disappeared.

In 2010, with a couple of moves and changes of reserves teams (like in Spain, reserve teams can play in the second division), Neza FC appeared (they had to play as Neza UTN one season), reminiscent of Toros Neza, with the new badge in the form of a couple of horns making the “N”. But they weren’t really the old Toros Neza, not in essence, so people didn’t get as involved with them. Not that they had time, either. In 2013 they played the final to get promoted against La Piedad, but lost... and the following year Neza FC was bought and became Delfines of Ciudad del Carmen.

But in Mexican football you can never say a team has really passed away. Someone might buy a club and change its entire structure, location, name and it can become whatever you want it to be. Last month a group of entrepreneurs announced their plan to bring Toros Neza back. Allegedly, Juan Antonio Hernández would be, again, the president, and plans include remodeling for the Neza 86 Stadium.

Everybody that lived and watched football in the 90‘s in Mexico remembers that Toros Neza team, they were the heart of the decade even though they didn’t have a trophy to show for it. In a time where Mexican football lacks spontaneity, impertinence, if only a glimpse of magic, the memory of that team looms almost as a shadow, looking at what it has become: monotonous.
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo


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7. maj 2014 16:22
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Bolivar have reason for Libertadores optimism

U.S.-based businessman Marcelo Claure is the money man behind the company that administer Bolivar, one of Bolivia’s leading clubs.

When Bolivar qualified for the Copa Libertadores, there was some media speculation that Claure´s friendship with David Beckham might mean the Englishman would be lured out of retirement to play in the tournament. It never happened. Instead, with no gimmicks, Bolivar have become the first club from their country to reach the competition quarterfinals since 2000.

Bolivar are from the city of La Paz, 3,600 metres above sea level. Conditions there, high in the Andes, are very difficult for unacclimatised opponents, who find themselves gasping for oxygen in the rarefied mountain air. Even visiting goalkeepers, who do not have to run around, have huge problems because the ball can fly through the air quicker than usual. Use of altitude was clearly a factor in that campaign 14 years ago, when Bolivar reached the last eight before falling to America of Mexico.

The striking thing about Bolivar this year has been the strength and quality of their away form. So far they have scored more goals away from home than in front of their own fans in the Hernando Siles stadium. After an uneasy start, the turning point was the first game under the command of the veteran Spanish coach Xabier Azkargorta, when Bolivar stunned Flamengo of Brazil with a 2-2 draw in the Maracana. The team were compact and composed, neat in possession, with enough individual talent to pose a threat to the opposing defence -- and these virtues have got them into the quarterfinals, with a great chance of making the semis.

In front of them are Lanus of Argentina, their hosts in Thursday’s first leg -- when, with the altitude of La Paz to come a week later, another good away performance will leave them carrying realistic hopes of reaching the last four. If making history were not motivation enough, Claure has given the team an extra powerful incentive -- he has promised to take them back to the Maracana for the World Cup final on July 13.

Bolivar’s progress is an appropriate symbol for a surprise year of the Libertadores. No one predicted that they would get this far, and the same applies to Nacional of Paraguay or Arsenal of Argentina, neither of whom have ever got this far before. Defensor of Uruguay have also exceeded expectations.

Indeed, of the eight teams left standing, only two have previously won the competition -- an eloquent demonstration of the difference between the contemporary club game in Europe, where the same giant teams hoover up the world’s best players and tend to reach the closing stages of the Champions League year after year, and South America, where constant selling of the outstanding talent makes things more fluid.

There is clearly one standout tie in the Libertadores quarterfinals: San Lorenzo against Cruzeiro, the reigning champions of Argentina against the reigning champions of Brazil. Some are seeing this as an early final.

Perhaps. The truth is, though, that both sides have had to struggle like mad to reach the current stage. Both flirted with elimination in the group stage, just sneaking through on goal difference. And both needed some luck to get past their second-round opponents, San Lorenzo needing penalties to eliminate Gremio of Brazil and Cruzeiro less than 10 minutes from going out against Cerro Porteno of Paraguay.

Whoever comes through this clash will be installed as favourite to win the title. But Bolivar hope to be there waiting for them, keen to add another surprise to the narrative of the 2014 Copa Libertadores.
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo


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7. maj 2014 16:39
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VM truppen blev som forventet, men Henrique istedet for Dedé (!!!!)
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NPato7
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7. maj 2014 16:42
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Jeps.. Forstod heller ikke Henriques´s????
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7. maj 2014 16:44
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NPATO - mener Henrique er en Scolari favorit...ellers som ventet syntes jeg...



Goalkeepers: Júlio César (Toronto FC), Jéfferson (Botafogo), Victor (Atletico MIneiro)

Defenders: Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Internazionale), Marcelo (Real Madrid), Maxwell (Paris Saint-Germain), David Luiz (Chelsea), Thiago Silva (Paris Saint-Germain), Dante (Bayern Munich), Henrique (Napoli)

Midfielders: Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburg), Paulinho (Tottenham), Ramires (Chelsea), Fernandinho (Manchester City), Oscar (Chelsea), Willian (Chelsea), Hernanes (Internazionale), Bernard (Shakhtar Donetsk)

Forwards: Fred (Fluminense), Neymar (Barcelona), Hulk (Zenit St Petersburg), Jô (Atlético Mineiro)

Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo


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NPato7
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7. maj 2014 16:51
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Det skulle heller ikke undre mig.. Jeg mener vist også at han spllede med Scolari for Palmeiras i den sæson hvor de rykkede ned.. lol

Ingen Atletico Madrid spillere, ingen Lucas Moura, ingen Robinho, ingen Kaka/Ronaldinho.. Hm,,
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7. maj 2014 17:00
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han går efter rutinen og spillere han kender, mener iøvrigt også Henrique kan dække den defensive....men hvor er overraskelsen han (Scolari) var nde på tidligere ?
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7. maj 2014 17:05
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an går efter rutinen og spillere han kender, mener iøvrigt også Henrique kan dække den defensive....men hvor er overraskelsen han (Scolari) var nde på tidligere ?

Tænker nok at det er Henrinque.. Eller eventuelt en Victor som tredje målmand?
Samba var vist rimelig tæt på gæt af den endegyldige liste.

Så mangler vi vel bare Chile, Colombia, Argentina´s sammensætninger..

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Viola 4 Ever
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7. maj 2014 17:07
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Jeg forstår nu godt hvorfor hverken Robinho eller Kaka er udtaget.
Man må vel, også som landstræner for Brasilien, forholde sig lidt til hvordan de enkelte spillere gør det til dagligt, og ikke kun hvad de tidligere har præsteret.

Under samme forudsætninger, kan det under lidt at man ikke fandt plads til de to spillere fra Atletico Madrids bagkæde.
Henrique er muligvis en Scolari favorit, og har da ikke været dårlig for Napoli, men han har sandelig heller ikke markeret sig som nogen stor profil. Castan har til gengæld spillet en stor sæson for Roma, men det er åbenbart heller ikke nok til at komme i betragtning hos Felipao.

Oscar har heller ikke ligefrem været vanvittigt imponerende siden nytår. For ikke at sige at han har været jævnt ringe i, men han starter formentlig som 10´er alligevel med mindre han bliver skadet.

Der er altså lidt Olsen/Rommedahl over Selecao under Scolari.
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7. maj 2014 17:08
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Ja, Samba var tæt på som sædvanligt, til gengæld er der en del La Liga fanboys (Atletico Madrid i særdeleshed) der må være rasende iøjeblikket ..!!


Tror Chile, Uruguay og Argentina giver sig selv


vi mangler også Ecuador og Mexico.?
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