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Så er er argentinske Colon de Santa FE ude og tage afstand fra deres fans adfærd i går...

Colón denuncia agresiones

BUENOS AIRES -- El club argentino Colón de Santa Fe denunció el miércoles que la delegación y los hinchas que acompañaron al equipo que el martes perdió en Asunción ante el Cerro Porteño (2-1), en los octavos de final de la Copa Sudamericana, fueron víctimas de agresiones y discriminación por parte de la policía paraguaya.

Debido a los encontronazos entre hinchas de ambos equipos en los graderíos del estadio Pablo Rojas, del Cerro Porteño, el partido estuvo suspendido durante 18 minutos.

"Nos trataron como a los delincuentes, nos agredieron y nos discriminaron, y lo peor lo vivimos después del partido, cuando nos llevaron a una comisaría, nos desvistieron, y nos dijeron que no teníamos derecho a nada porque no estábamos en Argentina", dijo el vicepresidente del Colón, Rubén Moncagatta.

"Nos agredieron, nos empujaron, fue un avasallamiento total, teníamos un sensación de impotencia... La policía tuvo animosidad, hasta el fiscal nos agredió verbalmente. Les dijimos que éramos dirigentes y no les importó. Había periodistas santafesinos que vieron todo", dijo el dirigente a la agencia estatal argentina de noticias Télam.

Mocagatta agregó que la salida de Asunción fue complicada. "A nuestro autobús y a otro nos acompañó una custodia mínima hasta la salida de Asunción y nos pasearon por una avenida en la que nos rompieron todos los cristales a pedradas", indicó.

"Por suerte, al menos hasta la hora en que salimos de Asunción, no me consta que haya personas heridas o internadas en hospitales de Asunción", agregó

Mocagatta comentó que una vez que pasó la frontera se sintió "un poco más tranquilo" y comentó que mantuvo contactos con la Gendarmería argentina, ante la cual hizo "la denuncia de todo lo ocurrido".

"Estoy seguro de que no es el pueblo paraguayo el que causó todo esto. Pero afirmo que la policía y la justicia de ese país nos odian. Se repitieron viejas historias negras que vivimos los argentinos en otras épocas. Nos hicieron sentir que para los argentinos no existe la justicia en Paraguay y no hay seguridad", aseguró el dirigente deportivo.

"Es increíble, cuando ellos vinieron a nuestro estadio no hubo problemas, los tratamos muy bien y merecíamos otro tipo de trato en Paraguay, especialmente de parte de la policía, no somos delincuentes", afirmó.

Informaciones publicadas el martes en Buenos Aires indican que entre 35 y 38 hinchas del Colón están detenidos en Asunción y que han pasado la noche en la comisaría números 2 Metropolitana de la capital paraguaya, tras el partido, a la espera de ser interrogados por la justicia.

Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
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24. okt. 2012 19:28
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Buffa er ikke begejestret for at skulle spille højre back.

Julio Buffarini no quiere jugar de "4"

BUENOS AIRES -- El dinámico Julio Buffarini avisó que hablará con el entrenador de San Lorenzo de Almagro Juan Antonio Pizzi para explicarle que distó de sentirse cómodo de lateral derecho, puesto inusual para él en el que lo pusieron durante el primer tiempo del partido ante Godoy Cruz en Mendoza.

"Godoy Cruz me buscó la espalda y eso le hace un mal al equipo. Me fui triste, me ganaron siempre. Pero se lo voy a tener que blanquear al técnico. No lo hablé, pero se lo voy a plantear", anticipó Buffarini en declaraciones.

El cordobés aclaró que puso toda su voluntad para cumplir con el pedido que le hizo el nuevo director técnico del Ciclón, pero admitió que se sintió demasiado incómodo durante el cotejo que se realizó en el Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, en el marco de la undécima fecha del Torneo Inicial.

"No me sentí bien, no es cómodo. Pero es para un bien por el equipo y el técnico me lo pidió. Para mí, es mejor jugar de volante por derecha", argumentó Buffarini.

Y aportó precisiones: "Godoy Cruz me buscó la espalda y me ganó siempre. Eso no le hace bien al equipo".

Es más, el habitualmente mediocampista de ida y vuelta, consideró que su rendimiento volvió a ser útil para el Ciclón en el segundo período, cuando lo colocaron en el puesto que le resulta familiar. "En el segundo tiempo, cuando me pasó a la mitad de la cancha, tuvimos la situación más clara del partido", destacó, quien llegó a San Lorenzo tras asombrar con su ritmo inclaudicable en Ferro Carril Oeste.

Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
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24. okt. 2012 19:32
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Det tyder på at Acosta og Albin ryger ind i startopstilling mod River...

Boca: Albín y Acosta serían titulares

BUENOS AIRES -- El entrenador de Boca, Julio César Falcioni, apuesta por generar un clima distendido y con alegría dentro del plantel a la espera del Superclásico frente a River y por eso en el entrenamiento ordenó una serie de ejercicios recreativos.

Por primera vez desde que es técnico del equipo, Falcioni dispuso hoy un trabajo recreativo en el que tres equipos de ocho jugadores cada uno participaron de un juego a dos toques que suponía traslados de ataque a defensa, en el que abundaron las risas y las cargadas entre los futbolistas.

Tan distendida fue la práctica en el predio Pedro Pompilio, que hasta los integrantes del cuerpo técnico se sumaron a ese clima alegre, a diferencia de lo que ocurrió ayer, con un entrenamiento en el que el silencio fue protagonista.

Si bien aún no entregó indicios del equipo que jugará en el Monumental, Falcioni evalúa realizar dos modificaciones en relación con el equipo que igualó ante Estudiantes de La Plata, con los ingresos del defensor uruguayo Emiliano Albín y de Lautaro Acosta, por Leandro Paredes y Lucas Viatri, respectivamente.

De esta manera, los elegidos para visitar a River serían: Agustín Orion; Albín, Rolando Schiavi, Guillermo Burdisso, Clemente Rodríguez; Guillermo Fernández, Leandro Somoza, Walter Erviti, Juan Sánchez Miño; Acosta y Santiago Silva.

Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
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24. okt. 2012 19:34
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Og lidt nyt fra River-lejren...

Aguirre: "No podemos perder puntos"

BUENOS AIRES -- A cuatro días del Superclásico frente a Boca, el mediocampista de River Martín Aguirre admitió que no pueden "seguir perdiendo puntos" si pretenden contar con chances de pelear el título.

"No podemos seguir perdiendo puntos si queremos pelear ahí arriba", sostuvo Aguirre en conferencia de prensa luego del entrenamiento en Ezeiza.

Consultado sobre el presente futbolístico de ambos equipos, el ex Olimpo y Godoy Cruz señaló que están "lejos de jugar bien o lindo", y destacó que el que esté "más tranquilo" y cometa "menos errores" tendrá "más chances de ganar".

"Para mí, el que juega mejor es Newell´s".

"River y Boca estamos lejos de jugar bien, o lindo. Perdimos una posibilidad de alcanzar a Boca y meternos en el lote de los de arriba y ahora tenemos que aprovecharlo", remarcó Aguirre".

Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
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24. okt. 2012 20:59
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Ricardo " El Tigre" Gareca - Manager for Velez Sarsfield er ude at kommentere på lørdagens modstander fra Racing Club.

R. Gareca: "Racing está muy bien"

BUENOS AIRES -- Ricardo Gareca, técnico de Vélez Sarsfield, consideró que su rival del próximo sábado, Racing Club, se encuentra en "un gran momento anímico y futbolístico" y que su equipo deberá "trabajar mucho" para ganarle en el partido válido por la duodécima fecha del Torneo Inicial.

"Racing está en un gran momento anímico y futbolístico. Sería muy importante para nosotros sacar este partido adelante, pero sin dudas vamos a tener que trabajar mucho para ganar", declaró el `Tigre´ Gareca en rueda de prensa.

Vélez, que viene de ganarle 1 a 0 a Tigre, se colocó en la tercera posición de la tabla con 20 puntos, a tres del líder Newell´s Old Boys de Rosario y a uno del único escolta, Racing, equipo al que justamente recibirá el sábado por la noche, desde las 20.20, en el estadio José Amalfitani.

Luego del entrenamiento matutino en la Villa Olímpica, Gareca aseguró hoy que al equipo lo ira "plasmando estos días" y lo confirmará "un día antes del partido".

Sin embargo, ya probó al posible 11 titular en la práctica. La formación que dispuso hoy la conformaron Sebastián Sosa; Fabián Cubero, Fernando Tobio, Sebastián Domínguez y Emiliano Papa; Iván Bella, Lucas Romero y Alejandro Cabral; Federico Insúa; Lucas Pratto y Facundo Ferreyra.

En ese contexto, pese a que Gareca aseguró que va "a esperar para ver el reemplazo de (Francisco) Cerro", Romero se perfila para ocupar el lugar del volante, expulsado en el encuentro ante el `Matador´ de Victoria, en lo que sería el único cambio.

En cuanto a Gino Peruzzi, quien se perdió el encuentro ante Tigre por una molestia en la cara posterior del muslo derecho, el técnico confirmó que finalmente tampoco jugará ante Racing. "Gino no va a llegar y no queremos arriesgar a nadie a esta altura", explicó el `Tigre´.

Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
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Ganske pænt resume af Chiles og Borghis problemer....(nu på engelsk)

Chile Boss Bichi Borghi Felling The Heat

‘Fuera Borghi’ (Borghi out) was the message scrawled onto Chile’s Juan Pinto Durán training complex in Macul after the 3-1 defeat to Ecuador in the World Cup qualifier. Accompanied by ‘Vergüenza nacional’ (national shame) and ‘Ladrones’ (thieves), the message was clear: changes needed to be made as Borghi’s reputation had hit an all-time low amongst fans.

The messages appeared after that defeat to Ecuador and before the game against Argentina. La Roja went out against Argentina like a team possessed; hunting down the ball when they didn’t have it and rampant when they did. They moved the ball, down the wings, at electrifying speed, bombarding the Argentina rearguard with crosses. Yet their intense first-half pressure did not yield results, instead they trailed two goals to nil; the defence picked apart by what can only be described as a ‘dream’ frontline: Ángel di María, Gonzalo Higuaín, Sergio Agüero and Lionel Messi.

The game finished 2-1 and Chile dropped out of CONMEBOL´s World Cup play-off place, behind Venezuela and Uruguay on goal difference.

Rumours had surfaced before the match that Borghi had already decided his fate, that, win or lose, he would resign. Speculation continued in the days that followed. A large group of players, the ringleaders being Gary Medel, Matías Fernández and Alexis Sánchez, were said to have persuaded ‘Bichi’ out of quitting and promised the ANFP (Chile’s football federation) that they would qualify for the World Cup in Brazil.

Sergio Jadue, the ANFP’s president, is a firm supporter of Borghi but others within the federation felt differently. Before the ANFP had made an announcement, Borghi spoke to an Argentine radio station dismissing the rumours he was set to leave while vowing to improve La Roja’s situation. A statement from Jadue giving Borghi his backing soon followed.

But what about the Chilean press? Borghi arranged a press conference for 10am on Friday 19 October where he claimed he had to do so because the press got jealous and criticised them for never asking him questions about football; his feelings for the Chilean press can only be described as contemptuous. He begun the conference by telling the eager press pack, “My resignation never happened, I am tired of all your lies.” Before defiantly stating, “I have no doubt that we will qualify for the World Cup.”

Since replacing Marcelo Bielsa in February 2011, Borghi’s spell in charge has been fraught with controversy, both on and off the park. He has overseen 26 games, winning 11, drawing five and losing 10. However the last four games have brought four defeats, three of which have been competitive qualifiers; the first time Chile has lost three successive competitive games since 2001.

Anyone that witnessed Chile under Bielsa would have been left with a positive image of La Roja. ‘El loco’ transformed Chile into one of the most respected and enjoyable national sides in the world; finishing second in qualifying for the 2010 World Cup. No mean feat considering the previous finishes had been last and seventh for the 2002 and 2006 editions respectively,

At a mundane World Cup Chile excited viewers playing a high-tempo brand of football based around pressing and attacking. Despite being knocked out by Brazil in the round of 16, Chile could return to Santiago with their heads held high. Chile fans celebrated the workings of Bielsa; rejoicing that the national side finally had an identity.

Despite spending a number of years playing and coaching in Chile – he coached Colo Colo to four consecutive league titles and a Copa Sudamericana final – Borghi has had a very tricky time working in the eminent shadow of Bielsa.

The 2011 Copa America presented the ideal moment for Chile to win their first tournament at senior level with Argentina and Brazil both going through transitional periods. Yet they were knocked out by Venezuela at the quarter-final stage.

Borghi had moved Chile from a direct side which seemed to play with a sense of organised chaos to a more patient approach, but with the onus still on attacking. You could say luck deserted La Roja in the Copa America, especially in front of goal, but it has become evident that the problem is still there, as witnessed in the defeat to Argentina.

‘Bichi’ has experimented. Not in friendly matches but competitive matches. In the away game against Argentina he showed naivety by going out to attack La Albiceleste, playing two strikers and two number 10’s. A heavy defeat was unsurprising. Then in Ecuador he played Alexis Sánchez as a lone striker. Both instances saw disorganised chaos.

The defence appears to be regressing, leading Bichi to lament the loss of Waldo Ponce through injury. The Universidad de Chile defender is seen by Borghi as the libero in his three-man defence. Therein lays one of the problems since taking over: selection issues. For the recent defeat to Argentina, Chile were missing four key centre backs; both through injuries and suspensions. Is it any wonder they have the joint-worst defensive record in qualifying?

Despite the selection problems he played West Bromwich Albion’s Gonzalo Jara at centre back alongside Marcos González, but with two attack-minded full-backs who left their defence exposed.

However, it hasn’t been his tactical mistakes that have brought about the fiercest criticism from journalists and fans, but the lack of discipline amongst the squad. Discounting the indiscipline on the field – five red cards in the 13 competitive games – which has had an effect on results, it’s the indiscipline off the field which has been most disconcerting.

There have been a number of issues that crept up in the last 18 months but none bigger than the ‘Bautizazo’ scandal that prompted the 10-game suspension of five players. The five players in question – Jean Beausejour, Arturo Vidal, Carlos Carmona, Jorge Valdivia and Gonzalo Jara – were allowed to attend the christening of Valdivia’s son but returned late, possibly drunk. All but Valdivia, who accused Borghi of lying, apologised and has been frozen out of the national side which brought about an exchange of words between the two parties in the press during the build-up to the Ecuador match.

The Chilean press have suggested that Borghi needs to be stricter with his players due to the reoccurrence of indiscipline. A point that struck a chord with Borghi in his press conference: “You want me to return to a dictatorship. I will not do a military regime.”

Whilst Borghi is correct and the players are adults, the press were not just talking about the players’ behaviour. The national team are together for merely days and with little time between games it was a surprise that Borghi gave his players a day off between the defeats to Ecuador and Venezuela - not exactly the message fans and the press want to be seeing after such a terrible defeat.

But despite all the criticism, Borghi retains the fervent support of his players to the point that Arturo Vidal announced that he’d consider not playing for Chile if Borghi was sacked. While other players have not taken it that far they have pleaded for Borghi to stay.

How would a new man fare taking over La Roja with the country out of the qualifying places, a squad still in support of the previous manager and possibly missing a player like Vidal?

Without a special replacement available – think Jorge Sampaoli, Manuel Pellegrini and, dare I say it, Marcelo Bielsa – it is the sensible decision for the ANFP to support their manager but with appropriate conditions.

The conclusions gathered from a recent meeting with the ANFP board have not been made public but it’s expected that Borghi has been told to improve relations with the press – now at an all time low after he called them liars – and to improve the discipline within the squad.

If Borghi can find a better balance between the freedom he wants to give the players and a more authoritarian style, Chile can attempt to shake off the stigma of troublemakers and begin to live up to the potential everyone saw at the World Cup in South Africa.

His aim is to get La Roja to Brazil for the World Cup, and despite recent set-backs it is achievable in the last seven games – four of which are at home. There have been good results under Borghi, including away wins in La Paz against Bolivia and Venezuela. What is needed on the field is a settled side with a competent defence based around the qualities and pace of José Rojas. If that happens the quality in attack will score goals and Chile AND Borghi will be in Brazil in 2014.

Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
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Lidt nostalgi - i forbindelse med River - Boca i den kommende weekend...markeret med fed er info til de historieløse fanboys vedrørende begrebet total fodbold - og om en argentiner der var større end Maradona, Pele og naturligvis også Messi.

We could have all ended behind bars

When it comes to Football history in Argentina, one team will always be mentioned “La Maquina” (the machine). That was the nickname by which the River Plate team of the late 30’s and well into the 40’s was known as.

Every single one of the starting XI of those teams has become a legend.

Those were the days where money was good, but it was not all; most players stayed in one team for most of their careers.

They were either fans of that team, or grew to like them and be committed to them.

There was no way that a Boca Juniors player will end up playing for River Plate or vice versa.

The supporters from all teams, all over the country could recite their clubs eleven players off by heart.

La Maquina’s most famous players were the front 5 (remember at that time the formation was 2-3-5), Munoz- Moreno- Pedernera- Labruna- Loustau.

Those 5 played total football 30 years before Cruyff and his Mechanic Orange did.

Labruna scored for fun, specially against Boca. Moreno was, according to many better than Maradona and Pele.


It was a terrific football team that won everything many times.

More importantly, they were great friends. They even used to go on holidays together with their families.

They say that the reason for that was that pre-game rituals did not involve 5 star hotels or any luxuries.

“We always went to the same place” said Loustau. “ we used to stay in a place where they gave us a dinning room, and a hall with 25 beds where we all stayed together”

“We were all River supporters, we felt doubly bad if we lost, first as fans, then as players. Especially if we lost against Boca. But they were the same”

“Those days, there were no bonuses for winning games, so the Boca players and us use to bet each other over the final score. And then divide the winning between the boys, according to how much each put in. That was our bonus and incentive” Loustau continued.

This anecdote is about a game that La Maquina, actually lost to Boca. In fact it was after that lost game.

They were returning to their place of retreat, sad, tired and angry at having lost to their bitter rivals.

As they get to the entrance of the parking lot to park the bus, the guy working there (who they knew for a long time) decided he was not going to open the barrier.

The driver tried and tried, but there was no changing the guy’s mind.

He then took off his top, only to be wearing a Boca Juniors top under it.

He did a celebratory lap of honour round the bus singing Boca songs, as the players looked on.

At first they all took it in, laughed and even clapped him. Still he was not stopping and the players started to get angry.

All of a sudden, two of them (Pedernera and Vaghi) got off the bus and they started giving the barrier man the kicking of a lifetime.

Nobody else made any efforts to stop them, they just stayed on the bus watching.

The police were called, and they took the full bus and the barrier man to the local police station.

They were all taken in individually to talk to the Chief inspector.

It took a while as they were around 30 people to interview there.

The result of this investigation was simple.

Every time that a player was called in to be “interviewed”, all they did was sign autographs for all the policemen at the station, who were River fans.

The only person that was kept in overnight was the barrier man.
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
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Intressant læsning Deportivo FAS:-)

River-Boca er helt sikkert et enestående opgør. Der er altid meget prestige på spil, og der er altid mange fans og fantastisk stemning når de to hold mødes.


Følgende statistik head to head imellem River Plate og Boca Juniors, i den argentinske liga.

River Plate wins 66

Draws 60

Boca Juniors wins 72

Total 198

S.S.C. Napoli
San Lorenzo De Almagro
F.C. København

https://youtu.be/sgDABBtm1TQ

Dette indlæg er blevet rettet 24. okt. 2012 21:38 af TR1986
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Action Jackson aka Jackson "Chachacha" Martínez har kasset for porto som dagens første latino.

Dit : og det gjorde han så 2 gange...
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo

MENGÃO BI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ

Dette indlæg er blevet rettet 24. okt. 2012 22:46 af Deportivo FAS
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Forlan straffer Vasco Da Gama.
S.S.C. Napoli
San Lorenzo De Almagro
F.C. København

https://youtu.be/sgDABBtm1TQ

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