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BlivIkkeFanatisk
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23. dec. 2011 06:31
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http://onside.dk/nyheder…gsa-negrito
٩๏̯͡๏۶ “From Doubter to Believer”

Suarez - The Ambassador of Kwan.
De La Barca
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23. dec. 2011 08:53
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Det er da fuldstændig ligegyldigt om hvorvidt Evra har en mexicaner på sit hold, eller ej. Et ord fra de sydamerikanske lande, som kan veksles til at være et skældsord, bør man bare ikke sige. Specielt ikke til en mørk person. Længere er den ikke

Ergo Evra burde ikke kalde Suarez for ´sudaca´.
Visca el Barca i Visca Catalunya!!

VVV

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Fribytter
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23. dec. 2011 09:11
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I Sydamerika er det jo netop ofte mere provokerende at tale nedsættende om nationalitet end om hudfarve. Og mig bekendt vælger FA selv, hvad der er nedsættende, og hvad der ikke er. Og sĂĄ er ´sudaca´ i udgangspunktet nedsættende - ligesom "black cunt" er det. Det er ´negro´ eller ´negrito´ ikke.

@ Razz

Er den europæiske forståelse af racisme mere oplyst end i Sydamerika? Eller er den bare tilpasset den europæiske kulturhistorie? Jeg håber, at det er et argument for argumentets skyld for ellers minder det jo i høj grad om et kultursyn, man normalt kæder sammen med gamle kolonimagter.

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Imagine if Terry was Suarez.

If a "diving, cannibalistic" Uruguayan was facing criminal prosecution for calling an English footballer a "black c--t". Now imagine reading this:

(Express): "Now Luis Suarez makes a real point"

(Guardian): "Luis Suarez departed the turf here bare-chested and with a trademark salute to the travelling support, his evening transformed from a shaky start into a familiar show of strength"

(Guardian): "Liverpool´s striker gave a good impression of the heroic leader as he left his off-field troubles behind him against Tottenham...One point in the bag and another seemingly made, Luis Suarez sauntered towards the band of Reds, peeled off his shirt and waded bare-chested over the advertising hoardings to hand his Liverpool jersey to one of his disciples. As he walked away, he banged his fist on his heart...If anything, history shows he uses moments of adversity as fuel to his fire."

(Independent): " if Suarez is so widely perceived to be a man in a crisis...no one ever said he was likely to submit meekly when the bad times came...announcing that if he is not anything else in these days of controversy, he remains one of life´s most dedicated survivors."

(Telegraph): "Even in troubled times there is a remarkable resilience to Luis Suarez...Suarez, typically, ignored all the barracking in the background...It was all over bar the shouting at Suarez. He shrugged it off."

(Telegraph): "Suarez ploughs on, either way. After clearing an Emmanuel Adebayor shot off the line in the dying moments he strode to his supporters to express his gratitude and pulled off his shirt. Low-profiles are not his style. He left the pitch in the style of a man sure he had made some kind of point about defiance. This is the way he likes his movie."
"The problem with my life is that I´ve said too much shit in the past and no-one forgets it"
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23. dec. 2011 09:12
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"Der er da sorte spillere i Liverpool som han sĂĄ mĂĄ have kaldt negrito.

Det har vi ikke hørt om mig bekendt."

Det taler ikke spansk.
"The problem with my life is that I´ve said too much shit in the past and no-one forgets it"
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23. dec. 2011 09:15
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Paul McGrath, 2004:

"I heard what Ron (Atkinson) said about Desailly and I thought it was a daft thing to say,” he said. “It was out of order. I was shocked because I had not heard Ron use that word before...I heard him call some black players a coon during training. It didn’t happen very often, it was occasional...I think Ron is probably one of the old school where language like this was probably more accepted.”

(Article continues) Although McGrath condemned Big Ron for using insulting language, he said that he did not believe he was a racist.

"“You only have to look at his record over the years,” he explained. “He was one of the few managers who helped black players in their careers and he treated everyone well.

"“He was a great inspiration for me personally. He brought me to Manchester United and looked after me. He was at Villa as well. He treated me brilliantly.

"“He would have been the first person to have befriended black people.”"

Paul McGrath, 2011:

"If I was in Glen Johnson’s situation, I’d have thrown the shirt to the floor."
"The problem with my life is that I´ve said too much shit in the past and no-one forgets it"
andib
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23. dec. 2011 09:54
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I Sydamerika er det jo netop ofte mere provokerende at tale nedsættende om nationalitet end om hudfarve. Og mig bekendt vælger FA selv, hvad der er nedsættende, og hvad der ikke er.
Det kan jeg kun tilslutte mig. Det var ligemeget hvordan du så ud i Costa Rica, så længe du var costaricaner, men der var ikke grænser for hvor nedladende der kunne tales om især mexicanere og nicaraguanere.
Kenny Dalglish had scouted the young star at Bordeaux, and requested the chairman Jack Walker to begin discussions with the player’s club. He refused, and famously said, “Why do you want to sign Zinedine Zidane when we have Tim Sherwood?”
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23. dec. 2011 09:59
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Sepp on racism: the highlights

Man of the week: PFA head Gordon Taylor – says Sepp´s view on "heat of the moment" racism is "embarrassing... he doesn´t understand how divisive racism is. Saying that anyone on the receiving end should just treat it as part of the game and shake hands, it´s outrageous. He´s just not with it." (1994: Taylor says Stuart Pearce´s alleged racist abuse of Paul Ince was "in the heat of the moment … Stuart regrets what he said, and he´ll be ringing Paul to apologise. Hopefully that will be the end of it.")

Best of the press

Daily Mail – revealing how Sepp "stunned the football world" with his "bizarre", "astonishing" view that players should shrug off racist abuse. Last month: Daily Mail comment piece: "Football might not be perfect but it´s come a long way since the 1970s." Racism victims should "just put up with it and get on with the game" because "there are worse things to complain about".


Gordon Taylor, der i øvrigt slet ikke forstår argumentet om kulturelle forskelle.
"The problem with my life is that I´ve said too much shit in the past and no-one forgets it"
Offensiv
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23. dec. 2011 12:10
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Interessant debat omkring Evra synes jeg. Dog er det eneste jeg har hørt, at Evra faktisk startede med at sige det han selv har indrømmet, hvorefter Suarez har sagt "Por que, Nigrito"

Det giver i så fald en helt anden vinkel, også retspraktisk kunne jeg forestille mig? Det må du vide Razz! Betyder det så, at Suarez burde få nedsat sin straf? Igen, det er bare de rygter der er i omløb og vi ved ikke noget med sikkerhed. Andet end, at Evra har følt sig ramt på den ene eller den anden måde. Og Suarez ikke har opfattet det som noget racistisk.
YNWA

Dette indlæg er blevet rettet 23. dec. 2011 12:16 af Offensiv
AlstrupLFC
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23. dec. 2011 16:18
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Interessant!
RedPoppy
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23. dec. 2011 23:52
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Det tror jeg faktisk er et mere realitisk bud pĂĄ en ny angriber. Han har fart, er ikke voldsomt dyr, og passer ind i konceptet.
Elsker at blogge, og debattere om fodbold.

http://blogogsport.blogspot.com/ <--- For alle fodboldnørder som mig.

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