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D.B.R. ©
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17. feb. 08:32
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Ja, det ser sgu skidt ud for City, men mon ikke de appellerer hos alle de instanser de kan komme i tanke om, og det hele så bliver udskudt.

På den anden side, så skal de vel heller ikke have lov til at trække det i langdrag.
Y.N.W.A.
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Fribytter
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17. feb. 12:08
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“ Du må ikke have et underskud på mere end £105 M over en 3 årige periode, der er dog regler som ex. forbedringer af “infrastruktur” som ikke tæller med i FFP. ”

Det er beløbet i PL’s FFP. Beløbet i UEFAs FFP er lavere.
"The problem with my life is that I´ve said too much shit in the past and no-one forgets it"
YNWA"96"
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17. feb. 12:21
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Det er jeg med på, nu blev der spurgt ind til LFC og hvordan klubben’s situation så ud. James P havde forøvrigt en fin artikel om LFC og FFP :

Europe’s elite weren’t queuing up to sign Sadio Mane in the summer of 2016.

The Senegal international’s record of 25 goals in 75 games for mid-table Southampton was respectable but unspectacular. There were question marks over both his consistency and his attitude, after he was disciplined by manager Ronald Koeman for turning up late to a team meeting.

However, Jurgen Klopp had no such concerns: he saw untapped potential that could be moulded into world-class talent in the right environment. Klopp regarded his decision not to sign Mane for Borussia Dortmund two years earlier as his “biggest mistake” and wasn’t going to pass up the opportunity to work with him a second time. A £30 million deal was sanctioned.

Four years on, Mane is the reigning African Footballer of the Year and a strong contender for this season’s PFA Players’ Player of the Year. On Saturday he sprinkled some stardust on a largely drab affair at a windswept Carrow Road.

Making his comeback off the bench after recovering from a hamstring problem, he sent Klopp’s men 25 points clear at the top with an emphatic finish as they equalled a club record of 17 successive league wins. It was the 100th goal of his English club career. His 75 goals for Liverpool have been netted in 155 games. What is he worth now? A conservative estimate would be £150 million.

Mane’s story is typical of the kind of shrewd business that has helped transform Liverpool from also-rans into kings of Europe and Premier League champions elect. And with a firm commitment to adhering to UEFA’s Financial Fair Play rules, owners Fenway Sports Group have done it by the book.

Liverpool have always lived within their means. Yes, they spent eye-watering sums of money on Virgil van Dijk (£75 million) and Alisson (£66.8 million) but that outlay was covered by the proceeds of the £144 million sale of Philippe Coutinho to Barcelona.

Buying the finished article has been a rarity. Joe Gomez cost just £6 million from Charlton Athletic. Andy Robertson (£10 million from Hull City) and Georginio Wijnaldum (£25 million from Newcastle United) were both plucked from relegated teams.

Assembling and developing this record-breaking squad — one which has collected 103 points from the last 105 on offer — has been a gradual process led by Klopp and sporting director Michael Edwards.

Just look at the last Liverpool line-up to grace Carrow Road – four years ago when Adam Lallana secured a dramatic 5-4 win deep into stoppage time.

Simon Mignolet started in goal with a back four of Nathaniel Clyne, Kolo Toure, Mamadou Sakho and Alberto Moreno. Jordan Henderson, James Milner, Lucas Leiva and Emre Can were in midfield with Jordon Ibe and Roberto Firmino operating further forward. Lallana, Christian Benteke and the on-loan Steven Caulker came off the bench.

The upgrade since then in every single department has been vast and it’s been achieved with a net spend of under £100 million during Klopp’s reign.

Building the club off the pitch with commercial success and the redevelopment of Anfield has been pivotal to the current dominance of Klopp’s side on it. In the coming weeks Liverpool will announce record revenues.

The introduction of FFP was one of the key factors that convinced John W Henry and Tom Werner to buy Liverpool when the club was in financial disarray nearly a decade ago.

The premise was simple — you could largely only spend what you generated. It was supposed to stop heavy losses and limit the injections of cash from rich benefactors like Roman Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour.

The Liverpool owners were vocal supporters. When Manchester City stood accused of financial doping after unveiling a £400 million sponsorship deal with Etihad Airways in 2011, Henry tweeted: “How much was the losing bid?” Etihad Airways were chaired at the time by the half-brother of City’s owner. Henry believed it was City’s way of circumnavigating the regulations. It’s been a theme ever since.

Liverpool’s owners have long since felt that they were playing by a different set of rules and were frustrated by what they saw as UEFA’s failure to truly punish overspending.

“The biggest challenge for us has been the ignoring of Financial Fair Play,” Henry said back in 2014. “It makes it very difficult to compete. We really don’t have Financial Fair Play, or at least people are not abiding by it.”

When City were fined just £17 million (with a further £32 million suspended) in 2014 for FFP breaches, Henry viewed it as an inadequate slap on the wrist.

Liverpool were themselves cleared of breaching FFP rules in 2015. UEFA investigated after the club registered a £49.8 million loss for 2012-13 after a deficit of £40.5 million for 2011-12. The governing body accepted that Liverpool had spent £49.6 million on stadium costs which is allowable expenditure. FSG had to write off £35 million after scrapping the doomed plans of previous owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett to build a new stadium in nearby Stanley Park.

After the German newspaper Der Spiegel published damaging allegations last year about how City had manipulated sponsorship deals and masked payments from their owners, Liverpool welcomed UEFA’s announcement that there would be a thorough investigation.

Werner picked his words carefully when he sat down with The Athletic in Boston last July to discuss the issue. On the eve of the new Premier League season, he clearly didn’t want to inflame tensions with their rivals but the message was clear.

Asked if there were still concerns over whether FFP rules were being properly enforced, Werner said: “Yes, there are. It’s no secret that we are big supporters of Financial Fair Play. We believe it makes sport and on-pitch performance more competitive.

“It is important that UEFA is successful in implementing Financial Fair Play. If there are infringements then we would expect punishments. Everyone should abide by those rules in a very transparent way.”

Now UEFA have got tough. Having decided that City not only broke the rules but made a concerted attempt to deceive European football’s financial watchdog, they have banned the club from the Champions League for the next two seasons.

With the process ongoing and City fighting to get the suspension overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport, Liverpool’s owners remained tight-lipped at the weekend.

Why would they fan the flames? The club are on the brink of ending their 30-year wait for the top-flight title. Everything is rosy.

Privately, they will see it as a belated but welcome show of strength from UEFA and they will be watching with interest how the Premier League respond, given their own investigation into City’s finances is ongoing.

Klopp insists he was “shocked” by the news and expressed his sympathy for Pep Guardiola and his players.

“They did for sure nothing wrong, they just played football and sensational football,” he says. “Wherever Pep has been, he has helped each league to improve their football. But then again we all have to respect rules. I have no idea if they did or not but UEFA sees it like they didn’t. We will see what happens.”

The implications for Liverpool will be vast. They had expected a backlash from City after the one-sided nature of the current campaign. But will Guardiola still be around to lead it? And will City really be able to secure the quality reinforcements they need to challenge Klopp’s men if they are denied the windfall of Champions League participation?

The richest club in the world have major issues to contend with. For Liverpool, the good times just keep on rolling.

The club’s owners believed in FFP, complied with it and made it work. Their stance has been vindicated.
“Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.”
Bill Shankly
kanmandet
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17. feb. 13:23
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Haha. Hvilken planet kommer kvinden fra.
Salah har sat den ene rekord efter den anden og er den mest scorende i PL siden hans ankomst til Liverpool

https://twitter.com/MT_Futbol/status/1229312077728227328?s=09
Champions of England.
Soon to be Champions of Europe.
Champions of the World.
Champions of almost fucking everything.
Hasse1983
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17. feb. 16:23
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£400M for et stadion navn i 2011... jeg skal ikke gøre mig klog på niveauet, men det lyder helt absurd højt.
Kostede Tottenhams stadion ikke £400M?!
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Zacha
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17. feb. 16:37
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£400M for et stadion navn i 2011... jeg skal ikke gøre mig klog på niveauet, men det lyder helt absurd højt.
Kostede Tottenhams stadion ikke £400M?!


Er det ikke både for navnerettigheder til stadion og som hovedsponsor?

Men jo, er et absurd beløb på daværende tidspunkt.
Klodike
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17. feb. 16:40
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Selvom det er hård kritik fra kvinden, vil jeg alligevel give hende ret i nogle ting.. At i en "lukket" kamp forsvinder Salah ret ofte, og han er netop bedst i de mere åbne kampe, hvor modstanderens defensiv ikke har det store fokus på ham. Han har jo også den her tendens til at brænde en del chancer, men han scorer alligevel en masse mål, hvilket jo fortæller hvor mange chancer han får i løbet af en kamp.
Joss
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17. feb. 16:49
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Var det ikke den samme som var ude og kritisere Salah lige da Liverpool havde købt ham, hvor hun sammenlignede ham med Cuadrado? Han har siden den kommentar været topscorer i ligaen to gange, og stadig har hun kun fokus på det han ikke kan.
YNWA"96"
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17. feb. 16:52
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@Hasse

Aftalen på de £400 M er en 10 årige aftale hvis jeg ikke husker helt forkert, altså 40 om året. Jeg mener Arsenal’s aftale med Emirates er £15 M om året. Så hvis man sammenligner de 2 aftaler, så passer det meget godt med at Abu Dhabi statsejede virksomheder betaler 2,5 - 3 gange mere til City, end hvad markedsprisen er.
“Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.”
Bill Shankly
Hasse1983
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17. feb. 17:11
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Det er også fair nok, at de får en aftale der er end andres. Der er jo hele tiden nogle som skal lave den bedste aftale, men 2,5-3 gange højere, med tanke på at City ikke havde vundet "en skid" i 50 år er jo helt absurd.

Liverpool er vel i Top 5 over præsterende hold de sidste 2 sæsoner, og vores aftale med Nike springer jo ikke alle tænkelige rammer. Tvivler på vi kunne lukke nogen som helst sponsor aftale der var bare i nærheden af 50% så stor som andre af de store klubber.

Det er her Fair Play for mig træder i kræft. Jeg er ligeglad med, at Citys ejerkreds har flere penge end vores, men det skal være fair når det tegnes sponsorater og lign.
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