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Senge
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9. aug. 2012 13:32
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Rygtet siger, at så snart en anden PL klub byder, så frafalder aftalen for den givne spiller og dermed åbner det op for Liverpool. Har dog ingen idé om, hvorfor det skulle være sådan skruet sammen.
GrandeGarcia
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9. aug. 2012 13:52
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Det kan jeg nu godt forstå til dels. Hvis en anden klub byder sig ind på en Swansea-spiller, så er det jo ikke kun Rodgers skyld at spilleren bliver fristet af at forlade klubben, og såfremt en given afgang ikke kan forhindres, så kan Swansea jo være ligeglad med hvem de sælger til

"Then I look at the potential of the front four in terms of Borini, Suarez, Gerrard and Downing and you´ve got pace, power, creativity and hunger, so I´m excited about going forward."
http://www.liverpoolfc.c…orward-line

Skal man mon forstå det som en del af Rodgers umiddelbare idealopstilling?
\"He walked in like he owned the place. Which suggested he probably did.\" - Jack Slate

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Lynild
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9. aug. 2012 13:56
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Swansea agerer jo kun efter naturloven, at Liverpool skal betale overpris, dvs. hvis Spurs byder 10 mill for Allen, skal LFC betale 15 mill. Det er elementært.
andib
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9. aug. 2012 14:36
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Jeg havde håbet lidt på Salomón Rondon. Havde dog slet ikke set at han var skiftet til Rubin Kazan.
Kenny Dalglish had scouted the young star at Bordeaux, and requested the chairman Jack Walker to begin discussions with the player’s club. He refused, and famously said, “Why do you want to sign Zinedine Zidane when we have Tim Sherwood?”
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9. aug. 2012 14:40
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http://www.goal.com/en-g…hester-city

Nu begynder vi igen.
Liverpool FC & Trabzonspor!
GrandeGarcia
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9. aug. 2012 14:51
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Hmm det kunne blive både fugl og fisk. Jeg vil altid være skeptisk over for noget der har været en del af Atletico Madrid´s berygtede forsvarsorganisation
\"He walked in like he owned the place. Which suggested he probably did.\" - Jack Slate
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9. aug. 2012 15:14
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Kun top-3 har bedre forsvar...

EDIT:
Retter sagt er der kun 3 der har indkasseret mindre mål.
Liverpool FC & Trabzonspor!

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Carlsen81
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9. aug. 2012 15:16
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Fik en rapport fra en talentspejder jeg kender den anden dag, på Amorebieta, en spiller vi tlsyneladende bringer ind hvis agger sælges. Læs:

OK, the player. He is rumoured to be a replacement for Agger, and you can see it in his game. They are almost identical players. Fernando has a bullet of a left foot, and can charge forward, with close control and release stunning left footed strikes, like Dagger can. However, he hasnt scored one of these in a competitive game as Agger has, but he certainly has that attacking threat to his game. It keeps that little doubt in the oppositions mind, that he could burst forward at any minute. It also makes the opposition close him down, so that he doesn´t get that opportunity to burst forward. Also, as he is of a strong build and tall he can cause mayhem in the opposition box, from corners and free kicks etc, and get into positions most strikers dream of - to get onto the end of the ball. It also helps that he is a fantastic header of the ball, meaning he can score with some wonderful headed goals.Overall, the attacking aspects to his game are a fantastic little bonus that is not expected from a player in his position, thus why he would be the ideal attacking defender replacement for Agger. You can also see why he would fit into the Brendan Rodgers style. He has good control, as most defenders do, and, due to him playing in Spain all his life, he loves to pass. He will do it all match, whether they are accurate long passes (Him to Lorente vs. Manchester United - look it up), or shorter, closer passes. But he is extremely good at passing, and would fit straight into a Tiki Taka style, having played it all his life. Anyway, more onto the defensive, and weaker aspects of his game. He lunges into tackles and is seems to permanently go in two footed. Its extremely worrying, as not only can it cause real injury, but he is at risk of giving always free kicks, penalties, and picking up cards of either colour in large quantities. Its a worrying and dangerous aspect of his game that I fear. I also fear about is that sometimes he gives up defending, and just fouls his opponent, e.g. regularly against Messi. He is a very strong player, which is a good part of his game, but he can use his strength, bulk and toughness to bad effect, by purposely going in hard, when he doesnt need too. It does strike fear into his opponents, but; I would like him to use his power more effectively and not just for fouling people!! Finally, he seems to rely too much on his brilliant left foot. I have mentioned how good it is, but in this day and age, to be a really good player, I think you need to be able to use both feet with ease, but he seems to struggle with his right foot - but his left foot with all its quality can make up for that most of the time. However, he could be found out with his weak foot if he came over to play in England. Anyway, he does have positive aspects to his defending game. It isnt just all fouling and being dangerous. He can use his strength, power and toughness well sometimes, to outmuscle attackers and to ease them of the ball. He can also use his strength to bully people in the box, and to distract then from finishing. He is also a brave player. He will dive into dangerous positions, e.g. players feet. He will dive into block the ball, and will generally throw himself around. He is a very determined individual, and will do anything to stop a goal - even if it means himself getting hurt. He also reads the game very well. He seems to be in that right position at the right time to be able to clear the ball, or to get to a player. Also, he seems to be a good player at reading through balls and then intercepting, or clearing them. His reading of the game is marvellous, and really a big part of his game. To go with his reading of the game is his awareness of where opponents are. He seems to read their runs, darts, or movements all the time, and seems to be able to counter that and read them. Anyway to conclude, something which is good in player is versatility. And because of his left foot and attacking mind, Fernando can also play left back. It give his team that extra dimension, but it also gives the team more flexibility, and saves the team from, e.g. needing to buy another LB, as he can play there. I think versatility is a quality thats undervalued, as it can save you million by not signing another player. Would Amorebieta cut it in England?
It will be difficult for him I believe, and because of that I am going to say no. I just believe he gives away too many fouls, is too dirty, and too dangerous in the tackle that he will just end up being sent off all the time, or caught out if he tries not to go in too strongly. Also, his Spanish passing would maybe fit at Liverpool, but a sloppy pass could lead to a goal. I just fear he could give the ball away too often - or make silly mistakes, costing Liverpool the game. Having said that, he reads the game well, and should be able to cope with the physical and speed aspects of the English game, but I just dont think that outweighs his potential problems. Im sorry Liverpool fans, but I just dont think he would cut in it England, and Im sure you can understand my reasons why too. However, I hope he will cut it - as it seems more and more likely he will sign for Liverpool.

Summary of Amorebieta:

Strengths: Spectacular left foot, tough/strong/brave, scary (for opposition), good in the air, good reading of the game, awareness of opponents position and versatile.

Weaknesses: Dives in, too strong/tough, lunges into tackles, 2 footed in the tackle, and reliance on his left foot.

Så måske flere negativer end positiver.. men den tekniske del af hans spil lyder meget spændende!
GrandeGarcia
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9. aug. 2012 15:52
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lol scary, hvad skal det betyde? en hurtig billedsøgning på google giver skræmmer da ikke

og hvordan er man too strong?

Jeg vil smaddergerne læse det, men formatet giver en kvalme. Er det muligt at få brudt bedre op?
\"He walked in like he owned the place. Which suggested he probably did.\" - Jack Slate
jomic...
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9. aug. 2012 17:22
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For mig ligner det mere et tilfældigt forum indlæg. Uden at vide hvordan en prof. scout skriver så er flg. ting efter min mening alarmerende:

OK, the player. He is rumoured to be a replacement for Agger, and you can see it in his game. They are almost identical players. Fernando has a bullet of a left foot, and can charge forward, with close control and release stunning left footed strikes, like Dagger can.

Alene det at der tales om at han ´rygtes´ antyder at personen der skriver rent faktisk ikke ved det. Ville en scout bruge øgenavne der falder i kategorien kælenavne? (Dagger)

Overall, the attacking aspects to his game are a fantastic little bonus that is not expected from a player in his position, thus why he would be the ideal attacking defender replacement for Agger. You can also see why he would fit into the Brendan Rodgers style.

Umiddelbart alt for mange sammenligninger med Agger og referencer til BR og "a tiki taka style of play". Hvilket gør scouting rapporten uoverskuelig i andre tilfælde, såfremt det ikke er en erstatning til Agger, men en forstærkning af truppen generelt. Så meget synes jeg heller ikke de 2 spillere ligner hinanden...

"... He seems ..."

Man kan da ikke skrive; "Han ser ud til at stole for meget på sit venstreben". Enten gør han eller også gør han ikke?... og hvorfor skulle det at spille i England gøre ham bedre med højre og hvordan?

Udtrykket bruges også i andre sammenhænge. Det får det til at se flyvsk og useriøst ud.

...Would Amorebieta cut it in England?...

...It will be difficult for him I believe...

...However, I hope he will cut it - as it seems more and more likely he will sign for Liverpool...

Han henvender sig til Liverpools fans?
Han begrunder ikke hvorfor han ikke tror han vil klare den, han skriver bare at læseren sikker forstår det?
Han bliver personlig i den forstand at han ´håber´?
Han mangler alt statistik med relevans?
Er 2-fods tacklinger ikke nærmest kun tilladt (når dommeren ser gennem fingre med det osv.), i England?


Du må undskylde hvis jeg har misforstået noget, men du skriver at personen der har skrevet det er talentspejder (scout). Så har skrevet ovenstående ´kritik´ ud fra det. Jeg synes bare ikke det ligner en "rigtig" scouting rapport.

Så om Amorobieta rent faktisk overvejes seriøst, synes jeg ikke rigtigt man kan drage nogle konklusioner på, udfra ovenstående.
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