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the Crazy Gang
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19. maj 2014 22:13
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Hehe - ja, han kendte åbenbart ikke nok til Strootman til at ville smide £17m efter ham sidste sommer. Nu kan han så ved sin transfernølen alene have kostet klubben omkring £17m på under 1 år (givet at man køber Strootman for £30m, som der efter sigende skulle være budt).

EDIT: Jeg tror forøvrigt ikke en Strootman handel kan gå igennem i sommeren, da han aldrig vil kunne klare lægechecket med en korsbåndsskade på forreste korsbånd.
Dette indlæg er blevet rettet 19. maj 2014 22:18 af the Crazy Gang
Tractorboy
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19. maj 2014 22:54
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"Nu kan han så ved sin transfernølen alene have kostet klubben omkring £17m på under 1 år (givet at man køber Strootman for £30m, som der efter sigende skulle være budt)."

Hvis I køber en korsbåndsskadet spiller.. Nej, det vil jeg ikke engang kommentere.

Men når I nu ikke har købt ham, så kan Moyes jo rent faktisk have sparet jer KASSEN, hvis man indregner løn og bonus mm. Det er jo ikke sikkert at Strootman´s karriere nogensinde når samme niveau...
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the Crazy Gang
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20. maj 2014 00:37
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Hmmm, glemte du at læse HELE indlæget??

Jeg skriver jo netop i min EDIT, at han umuligt kan komme til denne sommer, fordi han stadig er skadet, og derfor aldrig vil bestå lægechecket under dette vindue. Dog er det jo set før, at en korsbåndsskadet spiller er kommet sig. Måske bedst eksemplificeret ved Ruud van Nistelrooy, som da havde en rimelig karriere efter han skiftede fra PSV kort efter sin korsbåndsskade.

Nu vi er ved det, så er det jo i øvrigt ikke sikkert han nogensinde var blevet skadet i United, hvis Moyes havde købt ham. Og det er ikke sikkert Moyes var blevet fyret, hvis han var blevet købt og han havde gjort en forskel på midtbanen.
Kratos
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20. maj 2014 13:08
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LVG blev interviewet i går på hollandsk TV og en eller anden på nettet har oversat det. Kunne være nogen var interesseret i at læse det:



Tan: So you’re the new manager, since when has United been talking with you?

LVG: Not that long really, since around the time when Moyes got fired. It’s normal for these negotiations to take long, but people don’t seem to understand. Because a lot of business has to be settled between the club and manager. And you need to talk about the players you want to keep or get. The pre-season program. And also about the youth academy on which they want me to advise them. So we had a lot of conversations.

Tan: So the club calls you for negotiations with your agent.

LVG: No I do all negotiations myself. I just have a friend who are specialized in fiscal matters, who handles most talks for me. Because if I negotiate myself there will be a certain report with the person who will hire you, which doesn’t strike me as ideal.

Tan: What is your most important goal?

LVG: Well the goal is to be number 1 again as quickly as possible. The goal is to not only achieve this with star players, but also with youth products. Nowadays it seems to be “fashion” to do that. So most clubs like that end up talking with me.

Tan: Because your quality is that young players who still have a lot to learn, you can teach them your vision and teach them how to become better?

LVG: Yes, but that could also be older players. Because also young players could be different and dislike a certain vision. It doesn’t have a lot to do with age, it may seem so, but it’s not. I can say from experience.

Tan: So tell me in England they like to use a manager who controls everything like transfers and such. Will you also be taking those tasks upon yourself?

LVG: Yes.

Tan: And is it true they have 100m to spend?

LVG: About money we don’t talk. I talk about players I would like to get, and I ask them if that’s possible. We still have to see what happens. They will have to negotiate the transfers. I only tell them which players I like to keep, I would like to get and which players are allowed to leave.

Tan: There is one player I think who could leave United. Because at the Dutch NT you have 30 players and he’s not there. (Buttner) So I imagine if you’re not good enough for the Dutch NT are you good enough for Manchester United?

LVG: Well you could say stuff like that, but I can’t talk about that. This wouldn’t be good for Buttner if I answered this nor would it be good for United or for me.

(Mourinho Interview plays)

Tan: How is your relationship now that you become opponents?

LVG: That doesn’t matter. If we play each other, he wants to win and I want to win. He is the first person I sent a text message to after my family. And he texted me back saying he was jealous of the clubs I have trained at. He made sure to especially mention AZ Alkmaar.

Tan: Does this United business interrupt with your Dutch NT business.

LVG: No because a manager is different from a player. A player has to make a decision on the pitch within a split second. A manager has 30 to 60 days to think about a lot of stuff. I have done all my work for United during my off days. Today I stayed in Holland where everyone thought I would go to England, because I had to work on the videos of the Ecuador match from last week. I could also have gone to Manchester, but I decide the times when I can deal with my business. But a player has to perform in a match right away.

Tan: Do the players understand this? Or do you try to explain this to them? Because if you do it, don’t they think they should be able to do so as well. (This is a reference to LVG saying that players who are in transfer talks, have less chance to be selected because they will be with their minds elsewhere, like thinking about moving and how to deal with their families, etc.)

LVG: No, because like I just said a manager and player are completely different. But I did try to conclude the deal as fast as possible so I can now focus as much as possible on the Dutch NT.

Tan: So what’s your schedule like with United? Do you need to be back at number 1 within one season? What did you guys settle on?

LVG: Well they think it should be possible within one season. In Spain and Germany I also became champion within my first season, so it’s possible to do so as well in England, but there can be only one champion. If you succeed in doing so, you should be very proud you did.

Tan: How do you compare United to the other clubs you trained at? (Lists clubs LVG trained at) And then there is United a top club in decline. How do you look at the club?

LVG: Well Manchester is the biggest club of the world. When you look at marketing and their budget, so a club like that needs to play at the top. Because in general your performance gets judged by your budget, but in England you also have Arabic owners who can spend even more. Nonetheless we have to take on the challenge of becoming first again. Which is a great, but difficult challenge.

Tan: And how difficult is it to have someone as SAF on the background? Such a great manager who has won everything. Is his blessing needed?

LVG: Well I will obviously have a drink with him, which I have done plenty of times. We like each other. I was going to succeed him 10 years ago when he was considering to retire. I don’t think it will be an issue, especially because I put more pressure on myself than others can do.

Tan: There were a lot of reactions. (Lists a few example, LVG can make a cake out of a turd, etc.) What did you tell Woodward that made him like you so much?

LVG: I explained him my vision just like I did at Bayern, Barcelona and AZ. When I talk with the board I always explain them my vision and what is needed and which staff I’m going to bring. That’s what impressed him and I explained the exact same thing to the owners.

Tan: Is it also that a club needs to interview with LVG? (In Dutch this means that clubs need to convince van Gaal that THEY would be a great fit for him.)

LVG: I didn’t call United, I didn’t call Bayern. They called me. Which as you know is difficult, because nobody knows my phone number only journalists do, so it has to go through a lot of channels before it reaches me. Which is something I’m proud of, that even though I have no agent nor go out a lot, I pick the clubs when they come. I think I said it in October or November that I would resign after the world cup. The appointment of Hiddink as new Dutch NT manager took 3 months, which is much longer than it took with United.

Tan: When will you move? I imagine your wife will decide that because you’re so busy?

LVG: Exactly. At the club I have only talked about my vision, the preparation for next season and the players. Because I only dealt with them in my off days there wasn’t a lot of time. But she will take care of that so don’t you worry.

FCK og United siden \´92.
PayElite
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20. maj 2014 23:46
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Bliver spændende med Van Gal som træner.. Han nævner i interviewet linket tidligere i tråden, at han holder sig til en 4-3-3, hvilket jo for alvor varsler nye tider på O.T. Hvis der var (endnu) en ting man kunne kritisere Moyes for, så var det at han stædigt og testikelløst holdte sig til Fergie-formation 4-4-1-1..

Jeg har personligt længe ment at spillematerialet bedst egner sig til en 4-3-3, hvilket vi nok får at se efter sommerferien. Med sådan en formation er der højst sandsyneligt også plads til både Mata, Kagawa, Rooney og Vp i truppen endnu et år, hvilket er positivt..

Nu hvor Büttner ikke er udtaget til det hollandske landshold, tvivler jeg på han er i klubben efter sommeren. Dette betyder nok at Evra får en sæson til, hvilket på sin vis er meget fornuftigt med al den rutine der er mistet de sidste 2 sæsoner..
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Dette indlæg er blevet rettet 20. maj 2014 23:50 af PayElite
the Crazy Gang
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21. maj 2014 12:25
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Nu diskuterede vi jo Rooneys løn herinde for nylig. Denne artikel uddyber sagen yderligere:
http://www.101greatgoals…-contract/?
NeutralSpectator
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22. maj 2014 00:06
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Har hørt rygter om at Toni Kroos er på vej til United, og at de prøver at få fat i Arjen Robben.
Det er næsten for vanvittigt til at være sandt, nogen som kan bekræfte dette?
the Crazy Gang
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22. maj 2014 00:20
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Robben har været rygtet siden van Gaal blev bekræftet, men jeg tror ikke rigtigt på ham. Kroos har været rygtet længe, og de er taget lidt til de sidste par dage. Men det kan jo ikke bekræftes af nogen herinde, før det er officielt.
Jeg tror på, at man prøver at hente Kroos - men chancen for at han gør det, for at få en bedre kontrakt med Bayern er jo absolut til stede. Yaya Toure er i gang med det samme i City pt. - han kommer jo heller ikke til Chelsea.
Det sagt, så kan der være en mulighed for, at Kroos smutter fra Bayern, hvis de så ikke vil give sig (hvilket meget tyder på pt.), men det bliver til en ret høj løn, hvis United skal signe ham.
Viola 4 Ever
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22. maj 2014 01:23
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@Neutralspectator

Jeg tror at mange kan bekræfte at der er rygter om forskellige spillere. Jeg tvivler lidt mere på at nogen i Manchester United tråden vil være i stand til at bekræfte ret meget mere end det.
En ting er helt sikker, mange stjernespiller vil henover de kommende par måneder blive rygtet til andre klubber i både aviserne og på forskellige internetmedier. Mange af dem er plantede historier, andre historier er ren spekulation fra forskellige skribenter og en lille procentdel af historierne er der kød på. En noget mindre del af de sidstnævnte historier går så endda også hjem.

Du kan roligt regne med at inden den nye sæson starter, så er der nævnt mere end 200 forskellige navne som mulig tilgang til Manchester United i forskellige medier. I dare you to keep track for yourself.
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Mr. Pink
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22. maj 2014 10:21
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